Christoffel symbol ("undotting")

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The discussion revolves around the Christoffel symbol and its properties, particularly focusing on the relationship between its definition and the manipulation of vector components in a covariant basis. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the notation and operations involving the Christoffel symbol.

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  • One participant presents a relation defining the Christoffel symbol and seeks clarification on how to revert to the original equation after manipulation.
  • Another participant explains that expanding a vector in terms of a basis allows for the recovery of the original relation through multiplication by the basis vectors.
  • A third participant reflects on the meaning of the Christoffel symbol, suggesting it encapsulates the components of vectors with respect to the covariant basis.
  • There are meta-discussion posts regarding appropriate ways to express gratitude within the forum context.

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Participants appear to agree on the mathematical manipulation of the Christoffel symbol and its interpretation, though there is no explicit consensus on the nature of the initial question's validity.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions underlying the definitions and manipulations presented, nor does it resolve any uncertainties regarding the properties of the Christoffel symbol.

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Readers interested in differential geometry, tensor calculus, or the mathematical foundations of general relativity may find this discussion relevant.

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I hope you can understand my notation. The Christoffel symbol can be defined through the relation$$
\frac{\partial \pmb{Z}_i} {\partial Z^k} = \Gamma_{ik}^j \pmb{Z}_j
$$ I can solve for the Christoffel symbol this way: $$
\frac{\partial \pmb{Z}_i} {\partial Z^k} \cdot \pmb{Z}^m = \Gamma_{ik}^j \pmb{Z}_j \cdot \pmb{Z}^m = \Gamma_{ik}^j \delta^m_j = \Gamma_{ik}^m
$$
This might be a stupid question, but how can I go from the last relation back to the first one? Probably by multiplying by ##\pmb{Z}_m##: $$
\left( \frac{\partial \pmb{Z}_i} {\partial Z^k} \cdot \pmb{Z}^m \right) \pmb{Z}_m = \ldots\
$$ Now, either I need to rewrite the dot product more explicitly or there's some propriety I don't know of.
 
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For any vector ##\vec v##, it holds that if you expand it in terms of ##\vec Z_m##, you have the components ##v^m## as
$$
\vec v = v^m \vec Z_m.
$$
Multiplying by ##\vec Z^i## gives you
$$
\vec Z^i \cdot \vec v = v^m \vec Z^i \cdot \vec Z_ m = v^m \delta^i_m = v^i
$$
and therefore
$$
\vec v = (\vec Z^m \cdot \vec v) \vec Z_m.
$$
So yes, you regain the first equation by multiplying the second with ##\vec Z_m##.
 
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Ah, yes. After all that's exactly what the Christoffel symbol means: it "contains" the components of all the n^2 vectors wrt the covariant basis.
In hindsight it really was a dumb question! Thank you.

META: how should I thank people on this forum? Should I just press the "like" button?
 
kiuhnm said:
META: how should I thank people on this forum? Should I just press the "like" button?
That is one way that is giving some sort of official record, but a simple "thanks!" in the thread is also always appreciated. (Or you can do both :wink:)
 
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