Cipher in the Snow: A Story of Loneliness and Loss

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The discussion revolves around the themes presented in the movie "Cipher in the Snow," particularly the implications of loneliness and lack of love on a child's well-being and potential mortality. Participants explore the psychological and biological aspects of social deprivation and its effects on health, as well as broader existential questions related to the will to live.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reflects on the film's thesis that a boy died due to a lack of love, questioning the plausibility of this causal relationship.
  • Another participant presents evidence from animal studies indicating that lack of maternal care and social interaction can lead to serious health consequences, suggesting parallels to human experiences of isolation.
  • References to various studies are made to support claims about the effects of social deprivation on immune and hormonal systems in developing organisms.
  • A participant introduces the concept of a "will to live," prompting questions about its biological interpretation.
  • Another participant asserts a universal fear of death, expressing a personal commitment to perseverance in the face of mortality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the direct causality between lack of love and death, with some skeptical of the assertion while others provide supporting evidence from related fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these themes.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific definitions of love and social interaction, and the discussion does not fully explore the nuances of these terms or their implications for human health.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in psychological effects of social isolation, the intersection of biology and psychology, or themes of existentialism may find this discussion relevant.

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Have you ever seen the movie? It was required for us to watch this as kids. The thesis: This boy died because he wasn't loved.

Is this possible?

If you aren't familiar with this film (which is based on a true story), it is basically about a young boy (the "cipher" of the title) who simply falls dead in the snow one morning after a bus ride. The teacher who investigates what happened finds that the boy had no real friends, and essentially died of loneliness. The teacher learns that he was the boy's favorite teacher, yet he can hardly even remember who the boy was. [continued]
http://www.ldsvideo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=86

Also:
http://www.teenlit.com/teachers/cipherin.htm

Funny! I just noticed that this was put out by LDS video - the mormons. It was required viewing in our Catholic school. Imagine that! :biggrin:
 
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I have not seen the movie, but I read some of the info in the links and I get the jist. It's hard for me to believe that "lack of love" would be the direct causal event that killed the boy (if the story is indeed true). I can however produce evidence that lack of interaction and maternal care can elicit some rather serious responses in developing animals that could potentially lead to morbidity, illness or worse. A search of the literature on maternal and/or social deprivation, isolation rearing, etc, especially in infants or young animals (we're talking monkeys for the most part, but some studies were done on human orphans) reveals decrements in immune, neuronal and hormonal systems that could potentially result in permanent behavioral alterations or weaken the organism enough to allow easily combated or avoided pathogens to cause damage. Here are a few:

Laudenslager, ML, Reits M., Harbeck, R. (1982). Suppressed immune response in infant monkeys associated with maternal separation. Behav Neural Biol 36:40-48.

G.R. Lubach et al., "Effects of early rearing environment on immune responses of infant rhesus monkeys," Brain Behav Immun 9, no. 1 (Mar 1995): 31–46.

Cortisol (stress hormone) elevations
M.L. Laudenslager et al., "Total cortisol, free cortisol, and growth hormone associated with brief social separation experiences in young macaques," Dev Psychobiol 28, no. 4 (May 1995): 199–211.

L.J. Luecken, "Childhood attachment and loss experiences affect adult cardiovascular and cortisol function," Psychosom Med 60, no. 6 (Nov–Dec 1998): 765–72.

M. Carlson and F. Earls, "Psychological and neuroendocrinological sequelae of early social deprivation in institutionalized children in Romania," Ann N Y Acad Sci 807 (Jan 15, 1997): 419–28.

Granted I haven't fully reviewed each of these but they are suggestive as to the immediate and potentially longterm impact which isolation can have on the developing child. Whether you want to associate terms like maternal care and social interaction with "love" is up to you.
 
It also calls into play the notion of having a "will to live". Is there a biological interpretation of this idea?
 
I think we all have fear of death, even those who are convinced they don't. I know I'm never giving up.
 

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