Clearing Misconceptions and Some Tips on Debloating Android Phones

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The discussion revolves around the concept of debloating Android phones, addressing misconceptions about the process, and sharing personal experiences and technical insights related to managing bloatware. It includes aspects of theory, application, and technical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the definition of bloatware and the implications of removing it from Android devices.
  • One participant shares their experience with disabling certain apps to save resources, despite receiving system notifications about the disabled apps.
  • Another participant mentions the installation of a custom ROM (LineageOS) as a method to achieve a bloatware-free system, highlighting the trade-off of device compatibility.
  • There are inquiries about the functionality of system apps after using adb commands to uninstall them, with one participant suggesting that these apps remain dormant but still occupy memory space.
  • Questions are raised about the behavior of apps copied to a work profile using Shelter, particularly regarding their access and functionality after being removed from the system directory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness and implications of different debloating methods, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the outcomes of specific actions.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific device models and software versions, and there are unresolved questions about the behavior of system apps post-uninstallation and their interaction within work profiles.

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Nicely written article with a lot of good information on Android and how things are organized.

Thanks for sharing.

Jedi
 
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When I bought my current Android phone, I chose the smallest but still efficient local provider in place of one of the big names. The G-phone still came with bloatware but I have disabled several apps that I never use and that seem to suck up the most resources such as "Hang Outs" and relatives. The system occasionally complains "hang outs is unavailable", as if I did not know, or "Google would run so much better if xyz was enabled. Agree?" but the saved space is worth the minor annoyance.

Thanks for sharing your research and experience.
 
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Well, all that was what finally pushed me to install a custom ROM above TWRP.
With TWRP installed it is hard to brick the phone, and with LineageOS (and its variants) it is easy to have an up-to date bloatware-free system. Especially when it gets nothing else but GApps Micro.

Of course this also means that I'll never have any phone which is not supported by the mentioned software sources. Still plenty to pick from. 😉
 
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Just to confirm, if one were to use the adb method to uninstall system apps for the current user, can those system apps still be operational in the background or do they remain dormant until the device is facrory reset? Also, if one were to use a program like Shelter to create a work profile which would copy the system apps to said work profile and then uninstall or delete some apps from the system directory, exactly what can be accessed by the copies of the removed apps in the work profile?
 
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Just to confirm, if one were to use the adb method to uninstall system apps for the current user, can those system apps still be operational in the background or do they remain dormant until the device is facrory reset?
They will remain dormant and won't be operational in the background, but will continue to occupy space in the internal memory.
PhoenixDragon said:
Also, if one were to use a program like Shelter to create a work profile which would copy the system apps to said work profile and then uninstall or delete some apps from the system directory, exactly what can be accessed by the copies of the removed apps in the work profile?
Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to that.
 

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