Clebsch-Gordan coefficients symmetry relation

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The discussion centers on the symmetry relation of Clebsch-Gordan coefficients, specifically the negative sign between #### and #### when ##j_1+j_2-j## is odd. Participants argue that while the states can be interchanged, the relative sign is crucial due to the properties of SU(2) algebra. The confusion arises from the expectation that the coefficients should always have the same sign, which is clarified through examples involving angular momentum and the significance of order in direct products.

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Why are ##<j_1j_2m_1m_2|jm>## and ##<j_2j_1m_2m_1|jm>## negative of each other when ##j_1+j_2-j## is odd as given below?
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I would expect ##<j_1j_2m_1m_2|jm>## and ##<j_2j_1m_2m_1|jm>## to always have the same sign since nature doesn't care which particle we label as particle 1 and which as particle 2.

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From (6.274), isn't it true that
##|j_1j_2m_1m_2>\,=|j_1m_1>|j_2m_2>\,=|j_2m_2>|j_1m_1>\,=|j_2j_1m_2m_1>##?

And hence
##<j_1j_2m_1m_2|=\,<j_2j_1m_2m_1|##?

And so ##<j_1j_2m_1m_2|jm>## and ##<j_2j_1m_2m_1|jm>## should always have the same sign.

##j## is the general angular momentum quantum number and ##m## is the associated magnetic quantum number.
 
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Think of a cross product: a x b is - b x a, even though nature doesn't care which particle we call a and which we call b.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Think of a cross product: a x b is - b x a, even though nature doesn't care which particle we call a and which we call b.

Why does the order in the direct product matter?

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From (6.276),
##J_z \psi_{j_2 j_1 m_2 m_1}=(m_1+m_2)\hbar\psi_{j_2 j_1 m_2 m_1}##

It seems like the order doesn't matter. Could you give an example where the negative sign is necessary when the order is flipped around?
 
The important thing the C-G coefficients is their relative sign. That's where the SU(2) algebra is captured. You will need the sign only when you add terms.
 

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