Climate Crisis and the Future: The Day After Tomorrow's Warning

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The discussion revolves around the film "The Day After Tomorrow" and its portrayal of climate change, particularly in relation to the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and its potential collapse. Participants explore the plausibility of scenarios depicted in the movie, referencing current scientific understanding and data on climate change impacts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the realism of the movie's scenarios, suggesting that the extreme weather events depicted are unlikely to occur as shown.
  • Others point to observed cooling in the North Atlantic and discuss its potential link to a gradual weakening of the Gulf Stream, rather than a sudden collapse.
  • One participant mentions the historical context of the film, noting its basis in a book by Whitley Strieber, which may influence perceptions of its scientific accuracy.
  • Several participants emphasize that the Gulf Stream is not expected to collapse suddenly, but rather weaken over time, which could lead to gradual changes in climate patterns.
  • There are references to peer-reviewed articles that discuss the Gulf Stream and climate change, with some participants encouraging others to engage with these sources for a better understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the plausibility of the movie's scenarios, with some asserting that they are unrealistic while others suggest that certain elements could be based on real scientific concerns. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the potential impacts of climate change on weather patterns as depicted in the film.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various scientific articles and data sources, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of these findings or their implications for the scenarios presented in the movie. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the relationship between climate change and extreme weather events.

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The Day After Tomorrow

I'm watching the flick The Day After Tomorrow after CNN mentioned it could be occurring now.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/06/world/climate-gulf-stream-collapse-warning-study-intl/index.html

"A crucial system of currents in the Atlantic Ocean that helps control temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere and has implications for the entire planet's weather systems is showing signs of instability due to human-made climate change, scientists say.

Its collapse would have dire consequences for our weather and life on Earth."

In the movie, some kind of weather anomaly could make super cold air tunnel from upper atmosphere and freeze everything below. Can it happen if the currents were very unstable? Which of the movie scenes could become true?

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Back to the CNN article:

"Global weather patterns are critically linked to the circulation and its transport of heat and nutrients around the planet. A collapse of this system would result in significant and abrupt changes, including fast sea level rise, more extreme winters in Western Europe and disruptions to monsoon systems in the tropics.

It could also have a cascading effect and destabilize other components of the Earth's climate system, including the Antarctic ice sheet and the Amazon rainforest.

This scenario was the premise for the 2004 climate science fiction film "The Day After Tomorrow," in which a series of extreme weather disasters strike after climate change caused the AMOC to collapse."
 
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Cobul said:
Which of the movie scenes could become true?
As I recall that movie, practically none.
The movie is a classic disaster-film, with a bit higher budget than usual so it's low-A instead of the classic mid-B class.
 
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The scenario of the day after tomorrow is nonsense. Descending air will warm up because the air pressure increases and it compressed. Places where the air is descending tend to have sunny dry weather.

There does however seem some cooling going on in the north Atlantic. If you go to https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/ and you get the (Jan-Dec) anomaly of 2000-2020 compared to 1950-1980 you can see that there is a colder patch south of Greenland. It's not really colder than 1950-1980 but it hasn't warmed as much as the rest of the Atlantic.
This does seem linked to a slowdon in the gulf stream
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0007-4
I really don't see anyone saying that the gulf stream is "suddenly collapsing". It will just get weaker slowly, so I don't expect any sudden changes.
 
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A lot of people may not realize that this movie was based on a book written by none other than Art Bell, of Coast to Coast AM fame [the original UFO Central], and alleged repeat alien abductee Whitley Strieber - author of Communion.
 
There does however seem some cooling going on in the north Atlantic. If you go to
I really don't see anyone saying that the gulf stream is "suddenly collapsing". It will just get weaker slowly, so I don't expect any sudden changes.

Greenland's freshwater addition is sinking the saltwater Gulf Stream, making it return earlier ; or, at least that was the reason given for a hard UK winter back in the 2000's sometime.
 
Cobul said:
Which of the movie scenes could become true?
From what I can recall, likely none. The weather conditions were treated in an absurd manner because that's what the script needed.

And by the way @Cobul it took only a matter of seconds on the Internet to get articles pointing out many of the absurdities of the "science" in the movie. You should learn to use Google.
 
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Of course Whitley may have inside knowledge. :rolleyes:
 
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And by the way @Cobul it took only a matter of seconds on the Internet to get articles pointing out many of the absurdities of the "science" in the movie. You should learn to use Google.
It also only took a matter of seconds to open the links in the OP, and the links in those links as well, and find the original peer-reviewed Nature Climate Change article that OP was referring to, which I then posted in post 6.
 
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