Closed Strings and Virasoro algebra

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The discussion revolves around the construction of the Virasoro algebra in the context of closed string theory, specifically referencing the work of Green, Schwarz, and Witten. Participants explore the implications of constraints leading to zero generators and the physical reasoning behind the requirement that only certain generators vanish after quantization.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of constructing the Virasoro algebra if the corresponding generators are zero due to constraints on the system.
  • Another participant clarifies that while the generators are classically zero, after quantization, only the operators L_n with positive n need to be zero, while L_0 acquires an anomaly and becomes 1.
  • A participant seeks a physical argument for why only L_n with n>0 are required to vanish, expressing confusion over the definition provided in their course.
  • Another participant draws a parallel to the Gupta-Bleuler condition in the Lorentz-gauge quantization of QED, suggesting historical context for the reasoning behind the definitions used in string theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the necessity and implications of the Virasoro algebra, with some agreeing on the quantization aspects while others seek further clarification on the definitions and their physical significance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the intuitive understanding of why only certain generators are set to zero.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the physical justification for the definitions of the Virasoro generators and the implications of the constraints on the system. The discussion references historical concepts that may influence current understanding but does not resolve the underlying uncertainties.

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Hey guys,

i just started taking a course on ST and so far we discuss the closed string following Green, Schwarz, Witten.

I don't see the point of constructing the Virasoro algebra (formula 2.1.85 in GSW) if the corresponding generators are zero due to the constraints. Or to put it differently, they are defined by
L_m\propto \int e^{...m} T_{--}d\sigma but by the constraints on the system we have T_{--}=0 (similarly for the barred generator). In other words: i don't understand why we deal with the L's if they are zero anyways?

Hope someone can enlighten me on that...

Cheers,
earth2
 
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They are classically zero, but after quantization you only require the operators L_n with positive n to be zero. L_0 acquires an anomaly and becomes 1. L_n with negative n are "creation operators" which don't vanish. I'm sure your course will discuss it soon.
 
Hey, thanks for the answer. We had exactly this reasoning today in our lecture but we only DEFINED that L_n with n>0 vanishes. Is there a physical argument for that that makes this definition somehow intuitively accesible? I mean, why do we only require that n>0 vanishes and not all n?

Cheers
 
earth2 said:
Hey, thanks for the answer. We had exactly this reasoning today in our lecture but we only DEFINED that L_n with n>0 vanishes. Is there a physical argument for that that makes this definition somehow intuitively accesible? I mean, why do we only require that n>0 vanishes and not all n?

Cheers

This goes way back before string theory. It's essentially the same as the Gupta-Bleuler condition is the Lorentz-gauge quantization of QED. One possible reference for this is David Tong's QFT notes:
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/qft.html
Open Chapter 6, and the relevant parts start at page 131.
 

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