CMB and the reference point for vacuum energy

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The discussion centers on the relationship between Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiation and vacuum energy, particularly in the context of the Casimir effect and the flatness of the universe. It is established that while the CMB does not influence inflation due to its absence during that period, it is considered in models assessing the energy density of the universe. The participants clarify that the negative energy attributed to the Casimir effect refers solely to vacuum energy, and they explore the implications of a universe with only vacuum energy present, questioning its curvature.

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  • Understanding of vacuum energy and the Uncertainty principle
  • Familiarity with the Casimir effect and its implications
  • Knowledge of Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiation
  • Basic concepts of cosmology, including spatial flatness and inflation
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  • Research the implications of vacuum energy on cosmic structures
  • Study the Casimir effect in detail, including experimental setups
  • Explore models of cosmic inflation and their relation to the CMB
  • Investigate the role of dark energy in the curvature of space
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Astronomers, physicists, and cosmologists interested in the interplay between vacuum energy, the CMB, and the overall geometry of the universe.

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From the basic definition of vacuum energy as being tied in with the Uncertainty principle, I would expect this not to include the Cosmic Background Radiation. Right? On the other hand, in figuring out
(a) the Casimir effect, one attributes the force to the field between the plates carrying less energy than the vacuum... but the CMB is always there as well, so one would imagine that this would contribute to the pressure on the plates
(b) why the observable universe is nearly spatially flat and how inflation smooths it down, it is not clear whether this takes the CMB into consideration or not.
Thanks for any attempts to clear up my confusion.
 
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nomadreid said:
(a) the Casimir effect, one attributes the force to the field between the plates carrying less energy than the vacuum... but the CMB is always there as well, so one would imagine that this would contribute to the pressure on the plates

The CMB can easily be blocked by anything that blocks microwave radiation, so this isn't a problem.

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(b) why the observable universe is nearly spatially flat and how inflation smooths it down, it is not clear whether this takes the CMB into consideration or not.

Yes, the models take the CMB into account. Well, not for inflation, since the CMB didn't exist at the time of inflation, but the flatness of the universe has to include the energy density of the CMB and everything else. As far as I know at least.
 
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Thanks very much, Drakkith. So, when one refers to the negative energy between the plates, that is in reference only to the vacuum energy. This brings me to ask whether, then, since space is very nearly flat with the CMB and gravity and dark energy and so forth included, then if only the vacuum energy but not the CMB , matter, dark energy, etc. were present (if this condition makes sense), space would then be slightly curved (in the opposite way to its curvature in the presence of other mass-energy)?
 
nomadreid said:
This brings me to ask whether, then, since space is very nearly flat with the CMB and gravity and dark energy and so forth included, then if only the vacuum energy but not the CMB , matter, dark energy, etc. were present (if this condition makes sense), space would then be slightly curved (in the opposite way to its curvature in the presence of other mass-energy)?

I confess I don't know. The details of the shape of space are a bit beyond me.
 

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