CNC Laser Exhaust: Need Complete Enclosure?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of completely enclosing a CNC laser setup for effective exhaust of fumes, with a focus on safety and the types of materials being cut. Participants explore whether suction near the cutting head is sufficient or if a full enclosure is required, considering various materials and safety implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the need for complete enclosure depends on the materials being cut, noting that suction may suffice for organic materials.
  • Others mention specific materials like balsa, plastic (acrylic, lexan), leather, and aluminum engraving, indicating varying levels of concern regarding fumes and safety.
  • One participant warns that leather may contain toxic chromium compounds and emphasizes caution regarding heavy metals.
  • Another participant points out that while full enclosures are common in commercial units, this may also relate to eye protection rather than solely fume management.
  • There is a suggestion that the discussion could explore the consequences of improper system design, highlighting the complexity of engineering decisions.
  • Safety concerns are raised, particularly regarding the adequacy of protective eyewear and the importance of adhering to safety protocols in workshop environments.
  • Some participants express discomfort with casual attitudes toward safety, emphasizing the responsibility to maintain safe practices in public discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether complete enclosure is necessary, with multiple competing views regarding the adequacy of suction and the implications of different materials. Safety considerations also generate differing opinions on the importance of protective measures.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the potential risks associated with various materials and the need for safety protocols, but there are unresolved questions regarding the effectiveness of different exhaust strategies and the implications of design choices.

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Do I need a full enclosure for my cnc laser to exhaust it properly?
I want to set up exhaust to take up fumes for my cnc laser. Do I need to cmpletely enclose it, or can I just put some suction near the cutting head?

Thanks so much

Joe
 
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It depends on what you are cutting. Heavy metals ?
Suction is usually sufficient for organic materials.
 
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Baluncore said:
It depends on what you are cutting. Heavy metals ?
Suction is usually sufficient for organic materials.
-Balsa
-Plastic (acrylic, lexan)
-Leather
-Aluminum engraving

I think that's it?
 
theycallmevirgo said:
-Balsa
-Plastic (acrylic, lexan)
-Leather
-Aluminum engraving

I think that's it?
Leather may contain toxic chromium compounds. Take care not to accumulate heavy metals.

Aluminium should be quickly oxidised, so will not be a problem.

Organic material should be safe once it is pyrolysed by the laser. There is a possibility that the exhaust may contain some reactive organics like CN.
 
russ_watters said:
What does the manufacturer/vendor say?
I am the "manufacturer/vendor" =p. I'm assembling it from parts. That said, most commercial units are fully enclosed but I think that has just as much to do with eye protection.
 
theycallmevirgo said:
...fully enclosed but I think that has just as much to do with eye protection.
I take then that yours are not worth protecting? :eek:
 
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So maybe we should file this under: "If I build a system the wrong way, how bad is it?"
That is the hardest engineering question.
IDK, but I do know that I've normally seen full enclosures. But sure, you can probably get away with it. That's probably how they do it in India, Cambodia, and Guinea.
Sometimes it's easier to buy some extra Aluminum or Lexan than to do a good CFD analysis of airflow.

I've seen scarier stuff in the R&D lab at the Laser company I worked for.
 
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Tom.G said:
I take then that yours are not worth protecting? :eek:
There are glasses for that
 
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theycallmevirgo said:
There are glasses for that
Yes, in principle but 'glasses' vary. The side shields need to match the shape of your face or stuff can find itself taking the long way round and getting there. Most of the chips that are a risk for me are from milling and turning metal and they, at least are more or less ballistic. Lighter particles can follow all sorts of paths.
H and S can be a real pain, I know but if you start every job / design with H and S in mind, it becomes a way of life. . . . . . . . and there's always the risk of someone suing you if they ever visit your workshop. We are all held responsible for each other, these days you know. :wink:
 
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theycallmevirgo said:
There are glasses for that
That doesn't play well on PF. Safety means dotting the i's and crossing the t's on safety protocols. Your answer sounds like a cavalier attitude toward safety.

I frown on giving a public forum to potentially unsafe discussions. Kids can find the archives of this thread via google search.
 
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anorlunda said:
That doesn't play well on PF. Safety means dotting the i's and crossing the t's on safety protocols. Your answer sounds like a cavalier attitude toward safety.

I frown on giving a public forum to potentially unsafe discussions. Kids can find the archives of this thread via google search.
Fair enough. I was definitely planning on being the only one using it so I definitely wasn't thinking in those terms.
 
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