Colour & Mass: Does It Impact Weight?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether the color of identical objects, when coated with paint of the same density and volume, affects their weight. Participants explore the implications of color on mass, particularly in relation to energy absorption and temperature changes.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if two identical objects of the same mass and composition but different colors would weigh differently, suggesting that energy absorption might play a role.
  • Another participant asserts that the objects would not have different masses solely due to their colors, stating that if one object absorbs more light and becomes hotter, it could have a slightly greater mass due to increased internal energy.
  • A participant challenges the premise by questioning how identical objects could be of different colors if they have the same mass and composition.
  • Another participant clarifies that the question makes sense if considering a thin coat of paint, but concludes that color will have no effect on mass.
  • A participant references the mass-volume-density relationship, suggesting that if volume and density are equal, the masses must also be equal.
  • One participant speculates whether the discussion relates to the frequency, energy, or mass of photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that color does not affect mass under the conditions specified, but there is some debate regarding the implications of energy absorption and temperature changes on mass.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions about the uniformity of paint density and volume are critical to the discussion. The relationship between energy absorption and mass is also a point of contention, particularly in the context of temperature effects.

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if there's two identical object of the same mass and same composition but is of two different colours, would one weigh heavier than the other?? assuming that the coating of paint that gives the object its colour is of the same density for each colour and that same volume of each colour is used to colour the objects..
will the difference in mass due be to the amount of anergy absorbed through the different colours?
 
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The objects would not have different masses due to their colors alone.

If you shine a light on the objects, and one of them gets hotter than the other due to its greater absorption of the light, then yes, the hot would would be slightly more massive, due to its larger internal energy.

If you keep both objects at the same temperature, however, there will be no difference in their masses.

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Originally posted by alchemist
if there's two identical object of the same mass and same composition but is of two different colours

If they are identical, have the same mass and the same composition, how could they be of different color?
 


Originally posted by 1100f
If they are identical, have the same mass and the same composition, how could they be of different color?

alchemist said, in his first post: " assuming that the coating of paint that gives the object its colour is of the same density for each colour and that same volume of each colour is used to colour the objects."

In other words, each object is identical except for a thin coat of paint.

The question does make sense but the answer is, of course, that color will have absolutely no effect on the mass.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since
M = V \times D,
if V_{color1} = V_{color2} and D_{color1} = D_{color2}, won't the masses be the same?
 
If seems to me that the question is about the frequency/energy/mass of photons, is it?
 

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