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What are some companies that higher Mathematicans? Does Google hire Mathematicians?
The discussion revolves around the employment prospects for mathematics majors, particularly in relation to companies that hire mathematicians, including whether Google employs them. Participants explore various career paths and the demand for mathematical skills in different industries.
Participants express differing views on the job market for mathematicians, with some asserting a lack of demand while others highlight numerous opportunities in related fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall employment landscape for math graduates.
Some claims about job prospects depend on specific definitions of "mathematician" and the distinction between pure mathematics and applied fields. There are also references to the saturation of certain job markets, such as actuarial positions, which may affect employment opportunities.
Students considering a major in mathematics, those interested in career paths related to mathematics, and individuals exploring the job market for math graduates may find this discussion relevant.
Zondrina said:If you're not planning to be a professor or do research, the job prospects are mostly bleak for mathematicians (sadly).
StatGuy2000 said:That is not true. There is a high demand for math majors, particularly those with a background in statistics, to work in areas such as data mining, data analysis, and statistical analysis in a wide variety of firms e.g. market research analysis, banks and other financial institutions, pharmaceutical/biotech companies, etc.
Many math majors who also double major in computer science (the two degrees often go hand-to-hand) often work in the high-tech sector as computer programmers/software engineers. It's also quite common for math majors to double major in economics or accounting, and many of those often find employment in accounting or consulting firms. Having a major in math is also a good preparation to pursue the actuarial field, especially if you have passed at least some of the actuarial exams (although if I'm not mistaken, Locrian has posted that the entry-level actuarial job market is fairly saturated).
And to answer the OP, yes, Google does hire many math majors (often those with MS or PhD in math).
Zondrina said:The OP's question is very general and does not clarify whether or not he/she intends to pursue statistics or stick to mathematics. I'm assuming mathematics and statistics are separate as career choices (even though they are the same educationally).
There definitely isn't a high demand for mathematics majors in particular. Most mathematicians are going to find themselves without a job these days and it's not because they aren't intelligent. Pursuing statistics and actuarial science would be a much better choice if you're looking to pay the bills at the end of the day.
emlekarc said:Thank you very much for your replies! I would be double majoring in Math and Computer Engineering. I would then go on to get my Masters, and PhD in Mathematics (I believe in the Applied Mathematics area but I'm not sure what I would focus on, but I don't think it would be Satistics).
Zondrina said:If you're not planning to be a professor or do research, the job prospects are mostly bleak for mathematicians (sadly).
StatGuy2000 said:That is not true. There is a high demand for math majors, particularly those with a background in statistics, to work in areas such as data mining, data analysis, and statistical analysis in a wide variety of firms e.g. market research analysis, banks and other financial institutions, pharmaceutical/biotech companies, etc.
Locrian said:I don't think you two are talking about the same thing, and I think both posts are reasonably true.
As far as I'm concerned, a mathematician is someone who studies novel areas of mathematics for a living. This is a definition I've encountered in literature and among professors. It's narrow, but I think it's right.
Given that definition, almost no one with a BS or even MS in math is actually a mathematician (grad students excluded). The majority of PhD's in statistics are not mathematicians. Grocery store cashiers, actuaries and statisticians all apply mathematics in their jobs, but just about none of them are mathematicians.
Almost everyone I worked at in my last job and my current job have degrees in math. None of them are mathematicians, all are employed in industry, and all have excellent job prospects.
StatGuy2000 said:Google hires mathematicians i.e. those who have PhDs in math, and the answer to that question is yes -- there not be many openings, but there certainly are some openings).
Well I never said it was easy to get a position at Google, just that Google hires mathematicians.Zondrina said:I ran a search for that; The prospects are hopeless on a good day.
emlekarc said:What are some companies that higher Mathematicans? Does Google hire Mathematicians?