Comparing Hand Pump Performance: Brand A vs Brand B

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Brand A and Brand B hand pumps have similar maximum pressures but differ in displacement per cycle, with Brand A at 20cc and Brand B at 25cc. Testing revealed that Brand A struggled to increase pressure beyond 98 bar after 30 minutes, while Brand B reached 110 bar in the same timeframe. The discussion raises questions about whether the performance issues stem from pump quality or displacement. Some participants suggest that difficulties in pumping at higher pressures could be related to the absence of a relief valve or other mechanical factors. Overall, the performance comparison highlights the impact of design features on hand pump efficiency.
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I'm currently doing a testing on hand pump from 2 different brand. Let's say Brand A and brand B.
Brand A hand pump is 20cc/cycle with maximum pressure 350 bar, Brand B hand pump is 25cc/cycle with maximum pressure 350bar as well.
1. brand A hand pump easily pump up to 92bar, but after i tried it for about 30 mins, its pressure only increase to 98bar. While brand B hand pump can be easily pump up to 100bar, and then take about 30mins to pump it up to 110bar. What do you think? Is it the quality of the hand pump or its have something to do with the displacement of the hand pump?

2. Is the displacement per cycle affected its performance?

Can anyone give me any opinion?
 
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haruko said:
I'm currently doing a testing on hand pump from 2 different brand. Let's say Brand A and brand B.
Brand A hand pump is 20cc/cycle with maximum pressure 350 bar, Brand B hand pump is 25cc/cycle with maximum pressure 350bar as well.
1. brand A hand pump easily pump up to 92bar, but after i tried it for about 30 mins, its pressure only increase to 98bar. While brand B hand pump can be easily pump up to 100bar, and then take about 30mins to pump it up to 110bar. What do you think? Is it the quality of the hand pump or its have something to do with the displacement of the hand pump?

2. Is the displacement per cycle affected its performance?

Can anyone give me any opinion?

You may have run out of fluid in the reservoir filling the line for your pressure test.

We use hand pumps in our shop all the time and I have seen this happen. Are these brand new hand pumps?

Are you pumping directly into a dead-headed gauge?
 
It is very difficult to pump while the pressure more than 100 Bar. because this is not two speed pump, it is only single speed and the capacity is 25cc per stroke, so you will feel very hard to pump. For example those high pressure hand pump maker, they will use 32cc for high speed low pressure; 1.6cc low speed high pressure, so the user would not feel difficult pump it.

This is the reply from supplier of Brand A. Can anyone explain this?
 
drankin said:
You may have run out of fluid in the reservoir filling the line for your pressure test.

We use hand pumps in our shop all the time and I have seen this happen. Are these brand new hand pumps?

Are you pumping directly into a dead-headed gauge?

No, it's not run out of fluid.
No, it's not a brand new hand pump.
No, we don't pumping directly into a dead-headed gauge.
 
Then it sounds like you need to turn up the relief valve which is simply a check valve with a heavy spring and screw or socket head adjustment. It's getting to 110 bar but pumping after that it just pushes the oil over the relief back to the reservoir.
 
drankin said:
Then it sounds like you need to turn up the relief valve which is simply a check valve with a heavy spring and screw or socket head adjustment. It's getting to 110 bar but pumping after that it just pushes the oil over the relief back to the reservoir.

that's no relief valve in this case...
 
haruko said:
that's no relief valve in this case...

You are telling me you have a hand pump without a relief valve? I've never heard of one. Sorry, I couldn't help you.
 

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