Compatibilty of the Dirichlet boundary condition

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the compatibility of the Dirichlet boundary condition in the context of solving the Poisson equation \nabla^2 \phi = f. Participants explore the conditions under which a solution exists, particularly focusing on a contrived example where the boundary conditions may not align with the source function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a specific example involving the function F(x) and its derivatives, questioning the compatibility of the Dirichlet boundary condition with the given source function.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may have overlooked the homogeneous solutions that could be used to satisfy the boundary conditions.
  • A third participant shares a solution attachment, indicating an attempt to provide a resolution to the posed problem.
  • A later reply points out a potential error in the calculations of constants related to the homogeneous solutions, while acknowledging the general approach presented by the previous participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the compatibility of the boundary conditions with the source function, as there are differing views on the role of homogeneous solutions and the correctness of calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the relationship between the source function and boundary conditions, as well as the need for clarity on the requirements for compatibility in solving the Poisson equation.

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Hi,

I am trying to solve a Poisson equation \nabla^2 \phi = f in \Omega, with Dirichlet boundary condition \phi = 0 on \partial \Omega. My problem is that I am trying to understand the condition under which a solution exists. All the text I consulted says that the problem is solvable.

However, I am working on contrived example for which I don't see how a solution is possible, yet I am unable to explain it. Consider a function and its first two derivatives,
<br /> F(x) = -\frac1 4 e^{-2x} (2x + 1) \\<br /> \frac{dF}{dx} = x e^{-2x} \\<br /> \frac{d^2F}{dx^2} = e^{-2x} (1-2x) <br />
Clearly, F(x) \neq 0 for x = 0,1. I am attaching the plots of these functions F(x) in black, \frac{dF}{dx} in red, and \frac{d^2F}{dx^2} in green.

Now, suppose, I solve the Poisson equation said above, with \nabla^2 \phi = e^{-2x} (1-2x) for 0 &lt; x &lt; 1, I hope to recover \phi = F uniquely upto a harmonic. However, the given that \phi = 0 for x = 0, 1, I don't see how this can produce a continuous \phi, which matches the black curve.

I think this is because the information I pass to the system is corrupt, however, no textbook tells me any requirement on the compatibility between the source function and the boundary condition. Any insights are appreciated.
 

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You've found a particular solution to the problem, but I think you're forgetting about the two homogenous solutions that you can use to match your boundary conditions.
 
Hi !
Solution in attachment :
 

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Thanks both of you.

JJacquelin, I think you used (1-2x) instead of (1+2x), and therefore calculation of c_1,c_2 are wrong. But I got the general idea. Thanks a lot.
 

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