Complex Numbers and Vector Multiplication

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The discussion centers on the multiplication of complex numbers and its relation to vector multiplication. It establishes that while the product of two complex numbers remains a complex number, vector multiplication can yield different results depending on the method used: the dot product results in a scalar, while the cross product results in a pseudovector. The conversation highlights the distinction between these operations and emphasizes that complex number multiplication does not directly translate to vector multiplication due to the inherent properties of vector spaces.

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  • Familiarity with vector spaces and their properties
  • Knowledge of vector operations, specifically dot and cross products
  • Basic concepts of inner products and dual spaces
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  • Research "vector space" to understand the foundational concepts of vector mathematics
  • Study "wedge product" to learn about advanced vector operations
  • Explore "inner product spaces" to grasp the significance of dot products
  • Investigate the properties of "pseudovectors" and their applications in physics
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I have read from my algebra book that the product of two complex numbers is still a complex number: (a+bi)(c+di)= (ac-db)+(bc +ad)i
I was thinking that since complex numbers can be used to represent vectors, the product of two vectors should still be a vector. But I have also read from my physics book that there are two ways to multiply vectors, which are the dot product and the cross product.The dot product is the product of two parallel vectors and results into a scalar, while the cross product is the product of two perpendicular vectors. Why should these products be defined differently? Using complex no.s, two vectors whether parallel or not should still yield a product which is still a vector. Are these dot and cross products different from ordinary complex number multiplication? If so, when do we use the ordinary complex no. or vector multiplication? Am i missing anything? What math topics should i read? Please reply, I'm really getting confused.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!
 
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hi iampaul! :smile:
iampaul said:
I have read from my algebra book that the product of two complex numbers is still a complex number: (a+bi)(c+di)= (ac-db)+(bc +ad)i
I was thinking that since complex numbers can be used to represent vectors, the product of two vectors should still be a vector.

vectors exist in a vector space

a vector space is defined as having addition of vectors, and multiplication of a vector by a by a scalar (to make a vector)

we can also define an inner product (essentially, combining two vectors to make a scalar), a wedge product (essentially, combining two vectors to make a "2-form", which is something like a tensor), and a dual (eg in 3D, the dual of a vector is the 2-form "perpendicular" to it)

we cannot define a combination of two vectors to make another vector (other than addition, of course) unless we abandon the symmetries of the space

for example, in your 2D case, we could define a "complex vector product" to be the result of multiplying the corresponding complex numbers …

but then y times y would be -x (because i times i = -1), but x times x would be x

this is unsymmetric: rotating the whole space 90° should leave everything looking the same, but it makes your very simple "complex vector product" look completely different! :smile:
But I have also read from my physics book that there are two ways to multiply vectors, which are the dot product and the cross product.The dot product is the product of two parallel vectors and results into a scalar, while the cross product is the product of two perpendicular vectors.

No, the dot product is a product of any two vectors (and results in a scalar), while the https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=85" is the product of any two vectors, and results in a pseudovector (which teachers usually wrongly tell you is another vector, since after all it does look exactly like one :rolleyes:).

The dot product is an inner product. The cross product is the dual of a wedge product.
What math topics should i read?

google "vector space" and "wedge product" :wink:
 
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