Composition of Chicken: Exploring the Science Behind Meatless Alternatives

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This discussion centers on the definitions and perceptions of vegetarianism, particularly regarding the consumption of poultry and meatless alternatives. Participants debate the validity of individuals identifying as vegetarians while consuming chicken, highlighting cultural differences in vegetarian definitions. The conversation also touches on meat substitutes like Quorn, derived from fungus, which can mimic chicken in taste. Additionally, the ethical implications of industrial chicken farming and the nutritional aspects of meatless diets are explored.

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  • Knowledge of meat substitutes such as Quorn and their nutritional profiles
  • Familiarity with ethical concerns surrounding industrial farming practices
  • Awareness of dietary supplements like B12 for those on meatless diets
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This discussion is beneficial for vegetarians, nutritionists, food industry professionals, and anyone interested in the ethical and cultural dimensions of dietary choices.

  • #31
Starved to death or just never become so populated?
 
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  • #32
Aero51 said:
The fact of the matter is that if we did not modify these chickens/turkeys/cows/grain/corn etc the human race would have starved to death by now.

Natural farming simply cannot sustain the human race.

Many people forget that little fact.


So dig in!

That is not a fact of the matter, far from it.
 
  • #33
Monique said:
Do meatless chickens exist?


Yes, but the seeds are very expensive and, once grown, are actually seedless.

Damn you Monsanto!

Pythagorean said:
Starved to death or just never become so populated?

I don't think lack of food supply has ever caused a stagnation in reproduction. Look at the birthrates in the third world.
 
  • #34
FlexGunship said:
I don't think lack of food supply has ever caused a stagnation in reproduction. Look at the birthrates in the third world.

It depends on the context.

"The first dramatic effect of food shortage is on fertility"

Nutr Health. 1993;9(1):43-52.
The effects of food shortage on human reproduction.
Wynn A, Wynn M.

http://nah.sagepub.com/content/9/1/43.extract


It's not been established yet what long-term steady-state would be for a low-food situation though, compared to a high-food one. Obviously there will also be higher mortality rates, making younger populations more transient (which can have the affect of a lower population overall) so it's not just about reproduction.

other resources (including a skeptical one):
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1353/dem.2005.0010
http://www.jstor.org/stable/203626?seq=2
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1126699
 
  • #35
In some languages the word "meat" is used interchangeably with the word "beef." So it's possible that when you clarified by saying you didn't eat "meat or fish" what she understood was that you don't eat "beef or fish" which does sort of imply that for some reason you eat poultry...
 
  • #36
If you don't eat "meat", you may be offered seafood instead. Here, Atlantic salmon, haddock, and other seafood are available and popular. They are more expensive sources of protein than cheap steaks and burgers, but that is the accommodation that you may be offered if you tell your host that you don't eat meat. I'd certainly rather have a nice grilled piece of salmon steak than a hot dog any day...
 
  • #37
There is meat in hot dogs??
 
  • #38
Only in wormy ones.
 

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