Composition of Chicken: Exploring the Science Behind Meatless Alternatives

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The discussion centers around the confusion surrounding dietary labels, particularly the term "vegetarian." A participant recounts an experience where a meeting organizer, upon learning of their vegetarianism, inquires if they eat chicken, highlighting a common misconception that some individuals who identify as vegetarians still consume poultry. This leads to a broader conversation about the definitions of vegetarianism, with some participants noting that dietary practices vary significantly across cultures. The conversation also touches on the existence of meat substitutes, like Quorn, and the marketing of "meatless chicken," which raises questions about food labeling and consumer understanding. Participants debate the ethics of meat consumption, the impact of industrial farming on health and the environment, and the nutritional considerations for those who avoid animal products. The thread reflects a mix of humor and serious commentary on dietary choices and societal perceptions of vegetarianism.
  • #31
Starved to death or just never become so populated?
 
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  • #32
Aero51 said:
The fact of the matter is that if we did not modify these chickens/turkeys/cows/grain/corn etc the human race would have starved to death by now.

Natural farming simply cannot sustain the human race.

Many people forget that little fact.


So dig in!

That is not a fact of the matter, far from it.
 
  • #33
Monique said:
Do meatless chickens exist?


Yes, but the seeds are very expensive and, once grown, are actually seedless.

Damn you Monsanto!

Pythagorean said:
Starved to death or just never become so populated?

I don't think lack of food supply has ever caused a stagnation in reproduction. Look at the birthrates in the third world.
 
  • #34
FlexGunship said:
I don't think lack of food supply has ever caused a stagnation in reproduction. Look at the birthrates in the third world.

It depends on the context.

"The first dramatic effect of food shortage is on fertility"

Nutr Health. 1993;9(1):43-52.
The effects of food shortage on human reproduction.
Wynn A, Wynn M.

http://nah.sagepub.com/content/9/1/43.extract


It's not been established yet what long-term steady-state would be for a low-food situation though, compared to a high-food one. Obviously there will also be higher mortality rates, making younger populations more transient (which can have the affect of a lower population overall) so it's not just about reproduction.

other resources (including a skeptical one):
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1353/dem.2005.0010
http://www.jstor.org/stable/203626?seq=2
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1126699
 
  • #35
In some languages the word "meat" is used interchangeably with the word "beef." So it's possible that when you clarified by saying you didn't eat "meat or fish" what she understood was that you don't eat "beef or fish" which does sort of imply that for some reason you eat poultry...
 
  • #36
If you don't eat "meat", you may be offered seafood instead. Here, Atlantic salmon, haddock, and other seafood are available and popular. They are more expensive sources of protein than cheap steaks and burgers, but that is the accommodation that you may be offered if you tell your host that you don't eat meat. I'd certainly rather have a nice grilled piece of salmon steak than a hot dog any day...
 
  • #37
There is meat in hot dogs??
 
  • #38
Only in wormy ones.
 

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