Compton shift problem

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The Compton shift problem discussed involves calculating the wavelength and energy of a scattered photon after a collision. The initial wavelength is 15 * 10^-12 m, and the Compton shift calculated using (1 - cos 110 degrees) results in a shift of 8.31 * 10^-13 m, leading to a final wavelength of 1.58 * 10^-11 m. The energy of the scattered photon is determined to be 1.259 * 10^-14 J, while the initial energy is 1.362 * 10^-14 J, resulting in an energy loss of approximately 7.78%. However, corrections made during the discussion indicate that the correct energy loss should be 17.8% when using the proper cosine value for 110 degrees.

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Homework Statement
A photon with wavelength 15 pm Compton scatters off an electron, its direction of motion changing by 110 degrees. What fraction of the photon's initial energy is lost to the electron?
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shift in wavelength=h/mc * (1-cos theta)

h/mc=.00243 nm

Energy of a photon = hc / lambda
(1-cos 110 degrees) is .342, so the Compton shift is .00243 * 10^-9 * .342 = 8.31 * 10^-13 m.

The wavelength of the scattered photon is the Compton shift plus the initial wavelength, that is, (8.31 * 10^-13) + (15 * 10^-12), which equals 1.58 * 10^-11 m. So the energy of the scattered photon is hc / (1.58 * 10^-11), that is, 1.259 * 10^-14 j. And the initial energy of the photon is hc / (15 * 10^-12), that is, 1.362 * 10^-14 j.

Therefore, the fraction of energy lost by the photon should be (1.362 - 1.259) / 1.326, that is, 7.78%. However, the book answer key says 17.9%. If my answer is wrong, what am I doing wrong?
 
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It's better to use algebra and plug the numbers in at the end. You should be able to express the percentage energy loss as a function of ##\theta##.
 
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Brian_D said:
(1-cos 110 degrees) is .342,
##\cos (110^{\circ})## is negative so you can tell that ##1 - \cos (110^{\circ})## will be greater than 1.

(I haven't checked if that leads to the correct answer though.)

Edit: But @PeroK's suggested approach is the preferred one.
 
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I get 17.8%.

Note that energy is inversely proportional to wavelength.
 
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Brian_D said:
(1-cos 110 degrees) is .342, so...
This is wrong; check your arithmetic.
EDIT: I also get 17.8%.
 
Steve4Physics said:
##\cos (110^{\circ})## is negative so you can tell that ##1 - \cos (110^{\circ})## will be greater than 1.

(I haven't checked if that leads to the correct answer though.)

Edit: But @PeroK's suggested approach is the preferred one.
Yes, thank you Steve4Physics, my mistake was using the wrong value for cos 110 degrees.
 
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renormalize said:
This is wrong; check your arithmetic.
EDIT: I also get 17.8%.
Yes, I see mistake mistake now, and with this correction I also get 18%. Thank you, renormalize.
 
PeroK said:
It's better to use algebra and plug the numbers in at the end. You should be able to express the percentage energy loss as a function of ##\theta##.
Important reminder, thank you PeroK.
 
Brian_D said:
Important reminder, thank you PeroK.
The energy of a photon is inversely proportional to the wavelength. Hence
$$\frac{E'-E}{E} = \frac{E'}{E}-1 = \frac{\lambda}{\lambda'} -1$$That is a much simpler calculation.
 
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Got it, thank you PeroK.
 
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