Concenctric spheres and electron

In summary, an electron is released tangentially from an inner sphere with potential equal to the potential at infinity and radius R/2, within a larger, evenly charged, concentric sphere with charge Q < 0 and radius R. The question is what is the minimum initial kinetic energy E required for the electron to reach the outer sphere, assuming its speed is much smaller than the speed of light. The external sphere does not directly affect the motion of the electron, but there is a non-zero electric field within the external shell due to the presence of the inner sphere. The charge on the inner sphere is not necessarily zero, and the effect of the electron's charge on the inner sphere can be neglected.
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Homework Statement


Inside evenly charged (with charge Q < 0) sphere with radius R is evenly charged sphere with potential equal to potential in infinity and radius R/2. Both sphere are concentric.
From internal sphere, tangentially to it fly out electron (with charge e < 0). What is minimal initial kinetic energy of the electron E so it can reach external sphere? Electron speed is much smaller than speed of light.


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The Attempt at a Solution



External sphere does not have effect on electron because electric field inside a sphere is zero (Gauss's law), am I right? Potential in infinity is equal to zero so in inital moment charge on internal sphere is equal to zero. After the electron fly out of it its going to have charge equal to e (e > 0) and therefore it has effect on electron. My question is whether or not this new charge induces additional charges on external sphere and those additional charges have effect on electron?
 
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Hello masacre,
masacre said:

Homework Statement


Inside evenly charged (with charge Q < 0) sphere with radius R is evenly charged sphere with potential equal to potential in infinity and radius R/2. Both sphere are concentric.
From internal sphere, tangentially to it fly out electron (with charge e < 0). What is minimal initial kinetic energy of the electron E so it can reach external sphere? Electron speed is much smaller than speed of light.


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



External sphere does not have effect on electron because electric field inside a sphere is zero (Gauss's law), am I right?
Yes, and no.

You are correct that the external, spherical shell does not affect the motion of the electron (all else being the same). The evenly distributed charge on the external, spherical shell does not affect the electric field within the shell; thus it doesn't have a direct effect on the electron.

But you are not correct that the electric field within the external, spherical shell is zero (i.e. between R > r > R/2). That's because there is the internal sphere inside.

Gauss' law states that the electric field inside a evenly distributed, charged, spherical shell is zero, only if there are no other charges around. But in this case, the inner sphere does have a charge on it.
Potential in infinity is equal to zero so in inital moment charge on internal sphere is equal to zero.
That's not correct either. Just because the electric potential at surface of the internal sphere is equal to zero (with respect to infinity), does not mean that the charge on the internal sphere is zero.

If it helps, consider a different situation. Suppose that there is no internal sphere at all, but there is still the external, spherical shell with some evenly distributed charge on it. In this other, hypothetical situation, because there is no electric field inside the shell, it means the electric potential inside the shell is constant (i.e. uniform). But that does not mean it is zero. It just means that the electric potential is constant at all points within the shell.

This problem is different than that though. In this problem the internal sphere must have some charge on it in order to bring the potential back to zero at the surface of the inner sphere (otherwise the potential inside the external shell would be a non-zero constant).
After the electron fly out of it its going to have charge equal to e (e > 0) and therefore it has effect on electron.
I'm guessing that for this exercise, you can neglect the small change in the charge of the internal sphere as an electron flies out.
My question is whether or not this new charge induces additional charges on external sphere and those additional charges have effect on electron?
I'm guessing that you are supposed to neglect induced charges (or anything similar to that) for this problem.
 

1. What are concentric spheres?

Concentric spheres are spheres that share the same center point, with one sphere being nested inside the other. They are often used to represent the distribution of electric charge or magnetic fields.

2. How are concentric spheres used in science?

Concentric spheres are commonly used in physics and engineering to explain the behavior of electrons, electric charges, and magnetic fields. They are also used in models and diagrams to represent concepts such as atomic structure and electromagnetic radiation.

3. What is the role of electrons in concentric spheres?

Electrons are negatively charged particles that orbit the nucleus of an atom in concentric spheres called electron shells. They play a crucial role in determining the properties of atoms, such as their chemical reactivity and electrical conductivity.

4. How do electrons move in concentric spheres?

Electrons move in concentric spheres around the nucleus of an atom in specific energy levels or shells. The inner shells have lower energy levels, while the outer shells have higher energy levels. Electrons can also jump between energy levels, releasing or absorbing energy in the form of photons.

5. What is the relationship between concentric spheres and electron density?

The number of electrons in each concentric sphere determines its electron density. The closer the electrons are to the nucleus, the higher the electron density will be. This has implications for the strength of the electric charge and magnetic fields in a system of concentric spheres.

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