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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving the equation sqrt(x+1) - sqrt(x-1) = sqrt(4x-1). Participants explore the implications of squaring both sides of the equation and the potential introduction of extraneous solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about their solution, noting that x = 5/4 does not satisfy the original equation or a derived equation.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the solution, suggesting that squaring both sides of an equation can lead to extraneous solutions.
  • A different participant provides an analogy with a simpler equation, illustrating that squaring can produce results that do not hold true in the original context.
  • Some participants discuss the nature of square roots, debating whether squaring introduces multiple solutions or not.
  • A later reply identifies that the left-hand side and right-hand side of a derived equation do not match, indicating a source of error in the original reasoning.
  • One participant acknowledges their misunderstanding, recognizing that squaring can add extra solutions that do not satisfy the original equation.

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Participants generally agree that squaring both sides of an equation can lead to extraneous solutions, but there is some disagreement about the nature of square roots and the number of solutions they provide.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of squaring equations, particularly the introduction of extraneous solutions and the need to verify solutions against the original equations.

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confused with the answer<> seems correct buttht's wrong wrong??

question is
find solution
sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)=sqrt(4x-1)
sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)=sqrt(4x-1) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (1)
squaring both sides
(x+1)+(x-1)-2*sqrt(x2-1)=4x-1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (2)
solving and rearranging
1-2x=2*sqrt(x2-1) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -(3)
once again squaring both sides;
1-4x= -4
x=5/4;
But it does not satisfy the first equation.
it also doesn't satisfying equation number three, Is it reason for this?
If yes then why it is so?>?>?>?>?>?>(this is my question)
 
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Are you sure that your solution doesn't satisfy those equations? When you take the square root of a number, how many solutions do you get?
 


You seem to have started with an equation that doesn't have any real solutions. Let's consider a simpler problem: Find all real numbers x such that ##\sqrt x =-1##. If you square both sides, you get x=1. But x=1 doesn't satisfy the original equation, since ##\sqrt 1=1\neq -1##.

By squaring both sides, we only proved that if ##\sqrt x=-1##, then ##x=1##. This is an implication, not an equivalence, since x=1 doesn't imply ##\sqrt x=-1##. So we can't conclude that x=1. We can only conclude that there are no solutions with x≠1.
 


jamesrc said:
Are you sure that your solution doesn't satisfy those equations? When you take the square root of a number, how many solutions do you get?
I'm not sure where you're going with this question.

When you take the square root of a number, you get one value. Were you going to suggest that there are two?
 


vkash said:
question is

sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)=sqrt(4x-1) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (1)
squaring both sides
(x+1)+(x-1)-2*sqrt(x2-1)=4x-1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (2)
solving and rearranging
1-2x=2*sqrt(x2-1) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -(3)
once again squaring both sides;
1-4x= -4
x=5/4;
But it does not satisfy the first equation.
it also doesn't satisfying equation number three, Is it reason for this?
If yes then why it is so?>?>?>?>?>?>(this is my question)
Equation (3) lhs = -3/2, rhs = 3/2, so the squares are =, which is the source of your problem.
 


thanks to all of you;
i have got the point of error.
squaring add some extra answers to our solutions...
 

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