Confusing that light is the only wave that doesn't move through

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of light as a wave, specifically questioning whether light requires a medium for propagation, and exploring the implications of dark matter in this context. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and technical explanations related to wave behavior and the properties of light in different environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about light being the only wave that does not require a medium, questioning if it could move through a medium in space.
  • Others clarify that light can travel through various materials, but it does not need a medium to propagate, emphasizing that it behaves differently than other waves.
  • A participant suggests that dark matter could be a medium that light does not extend to, while others challenge this notion, stating that dark matter is believed to be ubiquitous in the universe.
  • One participant points out that light is not the only wave that does not require a medium, referencing wavefunctions of sub-atomic particles as an example.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether light requires a medium, with multiple competing views presented regarding the nature of light and dark matter.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of "medium" and the implications of dark matter in relation to light's propagation.

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I've always found it confusing that light is the only wave that doesn't move through a medium, is it possible that light does move through a medium, and dark matter is the parts of the universe the medium doesn't extend to.
 
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Light can in fact move through a medium, and the speed of light is slower in different materials. It's just that it doesn't need a medium.
 
thanks, but my question may have been misinterpreted, what i was asking is if light could be moving through a medium when its in space
 
What would it move through? It's been made clear that there is no medium in space, it's just a vacuum out there.
 
xirow said:
I've always found it confusing that light is the only wave that doesn't move through a medium, is it possible that light does move through a medium, and dark matter is the parts of the universe the medium doesn't extend to.

No, this is not possible. At least, not as you've put it. It's always possible there is some sort of medium that light travels through, but even if so, light must still obey all the laws we've already observed. After all, we've already observed that it works this way.

As for dark matter, that's definitely not possible. Dark matter is believed to exist practically everywhere in the universe in more or less amounts.
 
thanks, I had no idea dark matter was so prominent
 
xirow said:
thanks, I had no idea dark matter was so prominent

There could be some passing through you right now and you wouldn't even know it!
 
xirow said:
I've always found it confusing that light is the only wave that doesn't move through a medium.

Light is not the only wave that doesn't move through a medium. Electrons and other sub-atomic particles can be described by wavefunctions that don't move through a medium.

Claude.
 

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