Confusion on this logarithmic equation NEED HELP

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The discussion revolves around a logarithmic equation involving the expression e^(3+2logx) and its simplification to a quadratic form. Participants are exploring the interpretation of logarithmic notation and its implications in solving the equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the transition from e^(logx^2) to x^2, questioning the meaning of log in this context. There are discussions about whether log refers to the natural logarithm or the common logarithm, with some suggesting that in modern texts, log typically means natural logarithm.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and conventions surrounding logarithmic notation. Some participants have provided insights into historical and modern uses of log, but no consensus has been reached regarding the specific interpretation in this problem.

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Participants note that different textbooks may use log to refer to different bases, which adds to the confusion. There is also mention of the distinction between common logarithms and natural logarithms in various educational contexts.

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e^(3+2logx) = (3x-2)*e^3

I can get down to this point: e^(logx^2)=3x-2 I have checked the solution in the book, and the steps. Turns out it simplifies to x^2 -3x +2=0. The problem is I can't figure out how I pass from e^(logx^2) to x^2, because as far as I know logx isn't the same as lnx.

Could you please explain me that step?
 
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Calabi_Yau said:
e^(3+2logx) = (3x-2)*e^3

I can get down to this point: e^(logx^2)=3x-2 I have checked the solution in the book, and the steps. Turns out it simplifies to x^2 -3x +2=0. The problem is I can't figure out how I pass from e^(logx^2) to x^2, because as far as I know logx isn't the same as lnx.

Could you please explain me that step?

Apparently log x does mean ln x in the context of that problem.
 
Yeah but why?
 
Some texts use the convention that log(x) means natural log if no other base is specified.
 
Calabi_Yau said:
e^(3+2logx) = (3x-2)*e^3

I can get down to this point: e^(logx^2)=3x-2 I have checked the solution in the book, and the steps. Turns out it simplifies to x^2 -3x +2=0. The problem is I can't figure out how I pass from e^(logx^2) to x^2, because as far as I know logx isn't the same as lnx.

Could you please explain me that step?

I was able to find the same quadratic equation as you after taking natural logarithms of both sides, [STRIKE]but I still could not show that the original left side and right side are equal[/STRIKE] (I was thinking the question wronly. SOLVING the equation was intended, NOT proving left and right were equal).

One way was to take logs of both sides. Another way was to first divide both sides by e^3.
If divide L and R by e^3,
e^(2lnx) = 3x-2
e^(lnx^2)=3x-2
x^2=3x-2
Simple and easy to find x.
 
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In "pre-Calulus" textbooks, and many older "Calculus and higher" text, where using logarithms to do calculations was predominant, "log x" typically meant "common logarithm, base 10" while "ln x" was the "natural logarithm, base e".

However, in modern, Calculus and above", texts, common logarithms are just never mentioned and "log x" is used to mean "natural logarithm".
 
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Numbers could be written in "scientific notation", using the base-ten system, and the numbers and tables of logarithms could be used in performing computations for the numbers. This is why base-ten logarithms were important and very often used. Our books taught about both log base ten AND log base e. Best of memory is like HallOfIvy said, log was for base ten, and ln was for base of Euler number.
 
symbolipoint said:
Post #6:
Numbers could be written in "scientific notation", using the base-ten system, and the numbers and tables of logarithms could be used in performing computations for the numbers. This is why base-ten logarithms were important and very often used. Our books taught about both log base ten AND log base e. Best of memory is like HallOfIvy said, log was for base ten, and ln was for base of Euler number.
However, my point was that most advanced texts simply ignore
"log base 10" and use "log x" to mean natural logarithm.
 

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