Conservation of Energy or Momentum?

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The discussion centers on the principles of conservation of energy and momentum in the context of a mass-spring system. A mass M oscillates on a frictionless surface, and when an additional mass m is placed on it, the participant attempts to determine the new amplitude of oscillation. The participant's initial approach using conservation of energy did not yield the correct answer, while applying conservation of momentum provided the correct solution. This highlights the importance of understanding when to apply each principle in physics problems.

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Conservation of Energy or Momentum??

A mass M is attatched to a horizontal spring of force constant k fixed on one side to a rigid suppport.(Please imagine the diagram). The mass oscillates on a frictionless surface with time Period T and amplitude A. When The mass is in equilibrium another mass m is gently placed on it. What will be the new amplitude of oscillation.

My approach,
Conservation of energy
1/2 Mw(1)^2A(1)^2= 1/2 (M+m)W(2)^2A(2)^2 where w is omega.
And then on rearranging the terms i got
[A(1)/A(2)]^2 and
w(1)/w(2) on the left hand side i substituted it with (m+M)/(M) since w is inversely proportional to m.
This did not lead me to the right answer.
However if i conserved momentum then i do get the right answer. Question When am i supposd to know when to conserve momentum and when to conserve energy.
Anyone to help since my AIEEE examination is tomorrow.
 
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Note here W(1) A(1) stands for initial amplitude and initial angular velocity.
 

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