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The discussion centers on a ballistic pendulum experiment where a bullet of mass 97 g is fired into a pendulum bob of mass 788 g, causing it to rise to a maximum height of 3 cm at an angle of 36.9°. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s². Key equations utilized include the conservation of momentum and energy, specifically mv = (m + M)V and K = U, where K is the kinetic energy and U is the potential energy. The participant struggles with the calculations, consistently arriving at an incorrect value of 2.277, indicating a misunderstanding of the application of these principles.

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Homework Statement


A student performs a ballistic pendulum experiment using an apparatus similar to that shown in the figure. Initially the bullet is fired at the block while the block is at rest (at its lowest swing point). After the bullet hits the block, the block rises to its highest position, see dashed block in the figure, and continues swinging back and forth. The following data is obtained: the maximum height the pendulum rises is 3 cm, at the maximum height the pendulum subtends an angle of 36.9◦, the mass of the bullet is 97 g, and the mass of the pendulum bob is 788 g. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 .


Homework Equations



I thought this was the equation I needed to use: (1/2)(m1+m2)v^2 (final) =( m1 +m2)gh
(to solve for v(final))

Along with: (m1+m2)V (initial)= (m1 +m2) v(final)

The Attempt at a Solution



I continually get around 2.277, yet I know that's wrong.

Also, I don't really know where the trig is applied...
 
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jcjp said:

Homework Statement


A student performs a ballistic pendulum experiment using an apparatus similar to that shown in the figure. Initially the bullet is fired at the block while the block is at rest (at its lowest swing point). After the bullet hits the block, the block rises to its highest position, see dashed block in the figure, and continues swinging back and forth. The following data is obtained: the maximum height the pendulum rises is 3 cm, at the maximum height the pendulum subtends an angle of 36.9◦, the mass of the bullet is 97 g, and the mass of the pendulum bob is 788 g. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 .

The Attempt at a Solution



I continually get around 2.277, yet I know that's wrong.

Also, I don't really know where the trig is applied...

The question doesn't say what you have to compute and I only know that you "get around 2.277 and that it's wrong" (what quantity? units?) so I'll just outline the general approach.

m - mass of the bullet
M - mass of the block
v - speed of the bullet
V - speed of the block+bullet system
h - distance the system rises
K - initial kinetic energy of the system after impact
U - potential energy of the system at the highest position

To get the speed of the system after the impact just apply the conservation of momentum:

mv = (m + M)V

Then conservation of energy:

K = U

K = 1/2 * (m + M)V^2

U = (m + M)gh

The rest is just rearranging and substituting.
 
jcjp said:
...

Along with: (m1+m2)V (initial)= (m1 +m2) v(final)

...

This looks to be the problem, since only the bullet is moving initially, the block is at rest.
 

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