Conservation of momentum, Elastic car collision.

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in an elastic collision between a car and a truck. The car has a mass of 1689 kg and the truck has a mass of 2000 kg, with the truck initially moving at 17 km/h while the car's initial speed is unknown.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum to find the initial speed of the car but questions the assumption that the final velocity of the car is zero. Other participants challenge this assumption and inquire about the initial conditions of the truck.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the elastic collision and discussing the necessary conservation laws. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation of kinetic energy, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being made.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the initial state of the truck, as it is described as "parked," which implies an initial velocity of zero. However, this detail was initially overlooked by the original poster.

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A 1689 kg car collides head on with a 2000 kg truck. The collision is elastic. If the velocity of the truck is 17km/h in the same directions as the car's initial velocity, what is the initial speed of the car in km/h?



I'm getting an answer but doesn't seem to make sense.



So I'm looking at the conservation of momentum equation to set this up.

(1689-kg)(x)+(2000-kg)(0 km/h)=(1689-kg)(0)+(2000-kg)(17 km/h)

Then: (1689)(x)=(34000) or x= 20.13

I'm assuming that the final velocity of the car is 0 but it doesn't specifically say in the questions. Can I assume that since it's head on? Also it's a multiple choice question and the closest answer I can find is 19 km/h.
 
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Zsmitty3 said:
A 1689 kg car collides head on with a 2000 kg truck. The collision is elastic. If the velocity of the truck is 17km/h in the same directions as the car's initial velocity, what is the initial speed of the car in km/h?
There's not enough information. Below, you assume the truck is initially stationary. Is that true? (Not what I would call 'head on'.)
I'm assuming that the final velocity of the car is 0
You should not. You are told the collision is elastic. What additional conservation law does that allow you to use?
 
The Truck is parked so yes its initial is 0. Sorry I forgot to add that. Conservation of KE?
 
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Zsmitty3 said:
The Truck is parked so yes its initial is 0. Sorry I forgot to add that. Conservation of KE?
Yes.
 

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