Conservation of Momentum; finding the angular speed of a Neutron star

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in the context of a neutron star's angular speed calculation. The problem involves a star collapsing into a neutron star, with significant changes in radius and rotational characteristics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of angular velocity from revolutions per day to radians per second, questioning the accuracy of significant figures in the calculations. There is also a focus on the application of the conservation of momentum and the moment of inertia in the context of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging in checking calculations and clarifying the significance of precision in their results. Some have identified potential errors in the original calculations, while others are exploring the implications of using more significant figures in their answers.

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There is an emphasis on maintaining significant figures as provided in the problem statement, which may affect the final calculations. The original poster's use of approximations in calculations is also noted as a potential source of error.

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Homework Statement


Under some circumstances, a star can collapse into an extremely dense object made mostly of neutrons and called a neutron star. The density of a neutron star is roughly 10^{14} times as great as that of ordinary solid matter. Suppose we represent the star as a uniform, solid, rigid sphere, both before and after the collapse. The star's initial radius was 6.0×10^5km (comparable to our sun); its final radius is 16km

If the original star rotated once in 33 days, find the angular speed of the neutron star.
Express your answer using two significant figures and in rad/s

Ri = initial radius
Rf = final radius

Homework Equations


Conservation of Momentum

I = 2/5MR^2

L = Iw

The Attempt at a Solution



I first converted the 1 rev/ 33 days to rad/s

1/33 rev/ day *(2pi)*(1 day/24 hours)*(1hour/60 min)*(1 min/60 sec)
w = 0.000002 rad/s

I = (2/5)*(M)*(Ri^2)*(0.000002) = (2/5)*(M)*(Rf^2)wf

The masses (M) and the 2/5 cancel

3.6x1017 = 2.56x108*wf

wf = 1.40625x109

It says it's wrong. The only thing that I can think of that is wrong is that I did the angular velocity (w) conversion wrong.
 
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Northbysouth said:
I first converted the 1 rev/ 33 days to rad/s

1/33 rev/ day *(2pi)*(1 day/24 hours)*(1hour/60 min)*(1 min/60 sec)
w = 0.000002 rad/s

Hello,
Note that you've only kept 1 significant figure in w. How many sig figs should you have? Also, you might want to use scientific notation for this very small number.

I = (2/5)*(M)*(Ri^2)*(0.000002) = (2/5)*(M)*(Rf^2)wf

I'm sure you meant to type L rather than I at the beginning of the equation.

The masses (M) and the 2/5 cancel

3.6x1017 = 2.56x108*wf

Did you forget to multiply by wi on the left side?
 
I think you're right. So I get:
(6x10^8)^2 * 0.000002 = (16000)^2 * wf

wf = 2812.5 rad/s

But my answer is still wrong
 
Look's like your method is correct. But I really do think you should include more significant figures in your expression for wi. The number .000002 has only one significant figure. The problem gives data with two significant figures. What do you get for wi expressed to two significant figures? How does this affect your final answer?
 
You are correct. I ran the calculation again using the exact value my calculator gave me. wf = 3098.95.

My calculator is a TI-89 and I was used the approximate function to get the answer, which gave me 0.000002. The real value for wi is pi/1425600.
Thank you for your help.
 

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