Constructing Integers with 3,4,8,9 up to 101

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The discussion revolves around creating integers from 1 to 101 using the digits 3, 4, 8, and 9, with specific mathematical operations allowed, including addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and the use of recurring decimals. Participants share various equations to represent each integer, demonstrating creativity in their approaches. Some solutions utilize recurring decimals, while others focus on straightforward arithmetic. There are debates about the validity of certain methods, particularly regarding the use of square roots and factorials, which are prohibited. As the conversation progresses, users work collaboratively to fill in gaps for missing integers and refine their solutions. The thread showcases a mix of problem-solving, playful banter, and mathematical exploration, culminating in a challenge to find representations for integers beyond 101.
  • #31
Ooops,
66 = (3+8) \cdot \sqrt{4} \cdot \sqrt{9}
 
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  • #32
I was sure that ceptimus said no square root functions:
ceptimus said:
Factorials are not allowed, nor is the square root operation, and you can't use constructions like (3 + 4)8 to mean 78.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
  • #33
Ok Bob...then

66 = 8 \cdot ( 9 - \frac{3}{4} )

68 = 8 ^ { ( 3 - .\overline{9} )} + 4

85 = 9 ^ { ( 8 ^ { .\overline{3} } )} + 4


...and I left the "67" for you ! :-p
 
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  • #34
Rogerio said:
85 = 9 ^ { ( 8 ^ { .\overline{3} } )} + 4

Nice. :smile: Is 67 the last one left then?

Edit: I've not done a proper search, but I think we still need 58 and 83 too.
 
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  • #35
ceptimus said:
Nice. :smile: Is 67 the last one left then?

Edit: I've not done a proper search, but I think we still need 58 and 83 too.
Rogerio said:
58 = \frac{9 + 8.4}{.3}
A fix:

83 = 84 - .\overline{9} ^{ 3}

Yes! 67 is the last one!

I left it to Bob...:-p
 
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  • #36
Rogerio said:
I left it to Bob...:-p
This is all I can get: 67 = (8\times9) - \sqrt{4} -3

I am rubbish at this. Sorry. I will think some more.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
  • #37
There are two solutions (I know of) for 67.

One is very hard, and uses two recurring decimals. The other uses the decimal point but no recurring decimals.

I'll post them on New Year's Eve if no one gets them before and no one tells me not to.
 
  • #38
67=\frac{8}{0.(3)|}-4.(9)
,where "|" is a (perfectly reflectant) mirror,and the multiplicative dot '\cdot' is understood.

Daniel.

PS.Ceptimus,u didn't say anything about "mirrors",right?It has 2 recurring decimals and adding the image,three in total. :-p
 
  • #39
ceptimus said:
There are two solutions (I know of) for 67.

One of them is (probably) :

67 = \frac{9}{.3 \times .4} - 8

... and the other one? :smile:
 
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  • #40
...what about 102 ? Is there a way, ceptimus ?
 
  • #41
Rogerio said:
... and the other one?

Well, I think it could be

65 = ( 8 - .\overline{3} - .\overline{4} ) \times 9

OOOPS ! it should be 67 !

but... and 102 ? :smile:
 
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  • #42
I don't have answers for 102 or 109. All the others up to 120 I have. I've not searched beyond 120.

Well done on the 67 solution. I won't reveal the other (harder) 67 answer until New Year's Eve, just in case someone is working on it. :wink:
 
  • #43
ceptimus said:
I've not searched beyond 120...

Then add 121 to the collection :-)

121 = \frac{8}{.4 - .\overline{3}} + .\overline{9}
 
  • #44
Here's the difficult 67 as promised:

67 = \frac{.3 + .\overline{4}}{.9 - .\overline{8}}

Happy New Year.
 

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