Conte Riccati and Jakob Hermann

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The discussion centers on the analysis of Jacob Hermann's differential equations through the lens of Riccati's substitution method, specifically the transformation y/x=q. The participants clarify the derivative of a quotient using the formula dq = (x dy - y dx)/x², which is essential for understanding Riccati's approach. The conversation highlights the importance of foundational calculus concepts, particularly the manipulation of derivatives, in solving complex equations. Additionally, the participants suggest that more recent textbooks from 1900-1970 may provide clearer explanations for these mathematical principles.

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Riccati sets y/x=q and then arrives at x^2*dq. This is his analysis of Jacob Hermann's differential equations criticised by Johannes Bernoulli (published in 1710).

x*dy-y*dx is a constant and is equivalent to dt.

I have understood everything except for the q-substitution.


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Well, I have tried several times but all my solutions are not correct. E.g. x*dx*(dq-q). I have no idea how he got this square. I am missing some clues.
 

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Perhaps you would find a more recent textbook easier to work from. :oldsmile: Ideal is roughly 1900-1970, after that they get more difficult again.

If I have understood right your missing thing is the standard formula for derivative of a quotient, one of the half-dozen practically learned off by heart by most calculus students, see any calculus textbook:

y/x = q

dq = d(y/x) = (x dy - y dx)/x2

His formula Is just given by multiplying dq = (x dy - y dx)/x2 by q2
 
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epenguin said:
Perhaps you would find a more recent textbook easier to work from. :oldsmile: Ideal is roughly 1900-1970, after that they get more difficult again.

If I have understood right your missing thing is the standard formula for derivative of a quotient, one of the half-dozen practically learned off by heart by most calculus students, see any calculus textbook:

y/x = q

dq = d(y/x) = (x dy - y dx)/x2

His formula Is just given by multiplying dq = (x dy - y dx)/x2 by q2

Oh dear. What an idiot I am! Many thanks. :)
 
Oh, I think when you have not done it for a year or two it fades. In fact, I am often not that sure whether to write x dy minus... or y dx minus... and have to stop and think about it.

I was intrigued by your avatar, guessed who she was though I did not remember the name amongst all the Madame de's offhand, and traced her via Voltaire.
I knew of Emilie du Chatelet's important translation of Newton, but I don't think I had known of her as the first to formulate of the law of conservation of energy.
You are doing some interesting studies. :oldsmile:
 
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