Continuous Map to Single Point: Clarifying Confusion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of continuity in the context of a map that sends all of ℝ^n into a single point of ℝ^m. Participants explore the implications of this mapping on the definition of continuity, particularly regarding the treatment of open sets.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Diego expresses confusion about how a map sending all of ℝ^n to a single point in ℝ^m can be continuous, given that a single point is not an open set.
  • Diego references the definition of continuity, which states that the inverse image of an open set in the range must be open.
  • One participant explains that if the single point is included in an open set Y in ℝ^m, the inverse image is all of ℝ^n, which is open.
  • Another participant adds that if the single point is not in Y, the inverse image is the empty set, which is also open.
  • It is noted that the image of open sets in ℝ^n under this map is a single point, which is closed, while the inverse images of open sets in ℝ^m are open.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the reasoning that supports the continuity of the map, though Diego initially expresses confusion. The discussion appears to clarify the concept without any significant disagreement.

Contextual Notes

There may be limitations in understanding the implications of continuity in this specific mapping scenario, particularly regarding the definitions of open and closed sets and their inverse images.

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Hi all,

I need help with a paragraph of my book that I don't understand. It says: "the map sending all of ℝ^n into a single point of ℝ^m is an example showing that a continuous map need not send open sets into open sets".

My confusion arising because I can't figure out how this map can be continuous, since the definition is:
" a map is continuous if the inverse image of an open set of the range is an open set". In this case it seems that a single point of R^m isn't an open set, so how can we talk about continuity?

Thanks in advance.

Diego.
 
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dapias09 said:
Hi all,

I need help with a paragraph of my book that I don't understand. It says: "the map sending all of ℝ^n into a single point of ℝ^m is an example showing that a continuous map need not send open sets into open sets".

My confusion arising because I can't figure out how this map can be continuous, since the definition is:
" a map is continuous if the inverse image of an open set of the range is an open set". In this case it seems that a single point of R^m isn't an open set, so how can we talk about continuity?

Thanks in advance.

Diego.
Let f be such a map. Say f(x) = p. If Y is an open set in ℝ^m, what is its inverse image under Y? Consider two cases:

a) p is an element of Y. Then the inverse image of X is all of ℝ^n, which is open.

b) p is not an element of Y. Then the inverse image of Y is the empty set, which is open.

Either way, the inverse image of an open set is open.
 
The inverse image of open sets in R^m is open. The image of open sets in R^n is a single point - therefore closed.

An open set in R^m that does not contain the single point has an empty inverse image. The empty set is open.

An open set that does contain the single point has inverse image all of R^n. R^n is also open. So the map is continuous.
 
Thank you,

SteveL27 and lavinia.
I got it.
 

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