Convert Numbers to Rational Bases: An Example

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The discussion revolves around the concept of converting numbers into fractional bases, exploring the validity and methods of such conversions. Participants share examples and propose extensions to irrational and complex bases, as well as discussing related literature and playful explorations in various bases.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a method for converting the integer 5 into base 3/2 and checks the validity of the conversion.
  • Another participant affirms that extending digits to rational digits and using rational bases is valid, even suggesting the use of irrational bases.
  • Further comments express interest in exploring irrational and complex bases, mentioning the "quarter-imaginary base" as an example.
  • A participant recommends Donald Knuth's "The Art of Computer Programming" for insights into number bases and suggests exploring negative bases and various base conversions for entertainment and deeper understanding.

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Participants generally agree on the validity of extending digits to rational digits and using rational bases, but the discussion includes multiple perspectives on the exploration of irrational and complex bases, indicating a range of interests and approaches without a consensus on specific methods.

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The discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in converting numbers to fractional bases or the implications of using irrational and complex bases, leaving these areas open for further exploration.

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Readers interested in number theory, base conversions, and mathematical explorations of rational, irrational, and complex numbers may find this discussion engaging.

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I have been playing around with numbers in different bases and then I thought, what if they were in fractional bases. I found a way to convert numbers to fractional bases and have been searching on the internet and not found a similar way to do this. Anyway, here is an example of how I would do this:

The problem is: Write 5 in base 3/2

5*(2/3)= 3 remainder 1
6*(2/3)= 2 remainder 0
2*(2/3)= 1 remainder 1
1*(2/3)= 0 remainder 2

Take 2101 and divide each digit by 2.

5 in base 3/2 = 2/2 1/2 0/2 1/2

Check:

(2/2)*(3/2)^3+(1/2)*(3/2)^2+(0/2)*(3/2)^1+(1/2)*(3/2)^0=
27/8+9/8+0+1/2= 5

It worked.

Is it okay to extend digits to rational digits?
Is this a valid way to put integers in rational bases?

I have worked out a way to put rational numbers into rational bases but the process is complicated.
 
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pseudogenius said:
Is it okay to extend digits to rational digits?
Is this a valid way to put integers in rational bases?

Yes to both. You can even use irrational bases; phi is a popular example.
 
Thank you CRGreathouse,

Onward to irrational and complex bases!
 
pseudogenius said:
Thank you CRGreathouse,

Onward to irrational and complex bases!

For complex bases, Google "quarter-imaginary base".
 
You can read "The Art of Computer Programming" by Donald Knuth, vol I. A great (I don't mean sort of nice, I mean *great*!) book for anyone who has enough brain to ask a question like that. It is readable and humorous as well as seriously mind-stretching. Knuth doesn't need to be obscure to be impressive.
Have a go at negative bases. They are really entertaining.
Here is another, more important one: consider compare examples like base ten, hundred, and thousand. Also 2, 4, 8, 16 etc.
Then, for humorous effect, try root ten, root two, etc.
Try interconversions and arithmetic in each base.
It is a tremendous field for entertaining exploration.

Cheers,

Jon
 

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