Converting a repeating decimal to ratio of integers

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The discussion centers on methods for converting repeating decimals into ratios of integers, exploring various approaches and techniques for different examples. Participants discuss both theoretical and practical aspects of this conversion process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using geometric series to sum the components of a repeating decimal, such as expressing 0.177777... as a combination of fractions.
  • Others describe a method involving multiplication by powers of ten to isolate the repeating part of the decimal for subtraction, leading to a fraction.
  • A participant mentions the importance of choosing appropriate powers of ten based on the number of repeating digits to eliminate the decimal part upon subtraction.
  • One participant shares a method learned from their parent, suggesting placing repeating digits over an equal number of 9's to convert to a fraction.
  • Some participants express confusion over terminology, such as "GP" (geometric progression) and the concept of "difference of two in the powers of ten."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single method for converting repeating decimals, as participants present multiple approaches and some express confusion about specific terms and techniques. The discussion remains open with various viewpoints and methods being explored.

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Participants have not resolved the nuances of selecting powers of ten or the implications of different methods for conversion. Some assumptions about familiarity with mathematical concepts may limit understanding for others.

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0.17777777777 convert into a ratio.
 
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Re: converting a repeating decimal to ratio of integers

Hi,
This is 0.1 + 0.077777=\frac{1}{10}+\frac{7}{100}+\frac{7}{1000}+... where you have a GP to sum.

Or \text{Let } x=0.0777.. so that 10x=0.777...

Subtracting gives 9x=0.7 and so x=\frac{7}{90}. Now just add \frac{1}{10}+\frac{7}{90} and simplify.

I should also say that we can write a decimal as a fraction but we can't write it as a ratio.
 
Re: converting a repeating decimal to ratio of integers

M R said:
Hi,
This is 0.1 + 0.077777=\frac{1}{10}+\frac{7}{100}+\frac{7}{1000}+... where you have a GP to sum.

Or \text{Let } x=0.0777.. so that 10x=0.777...

Subtracting gives 9x=0.7 and so x=\frac{7}{90}. Now just add \frac{1}{10}+\frac{7}{90} and simplify.

I should also say that we can write a decimal as a fraction but we can't write it as a ratio.

what do you mean by "GP"?
 
Re: converting a repeating decimal to ratio of integers

paulmdrdo said:
what do you mean by "GP"?

Sorry, I have to stop using abbreviations. :)

A GP is a geometric progression: a, ar, ar^2, ar^3....

If you haven't met this then the second method I posted is fine.
 
Re: converting a repeating decimal to ratio of integers

Hello, paulmdrdo!

\text{Convert }\,0.1777\text{...}\,\text{ to a fraction.}
\begin{array}{ccc}\text{We have:} & x &=& 0.1777\cdots \\ \\ \text{Multiply by 100:} & 100x &=& 17.777\cdots \\ \text{Multiply by 10:} & 10x &=& \;\;1.777\cdots \\ \text{Subtract:} & 90x &=& 16\qquad\quad\; \end{array}

Therefore: .x \;=\;\frac{16}{90} \;=\;\frac{8}{45}
 
how would I decide what appropriate power of ten should i use?

for example i have 3.5474747474... how would you convert this one?
 
Since two digits repeat, a difference of two in the powers of ten that you use leave no decimal part when you subtract.

If you use 1000 and 10 you will get

1000x=3547.474747...

10x=35.474747...

So 990x=3512 and x=3512/990=1756/495.

I'm adopting Soroban's approach as I prefer it to what I did earlier.
 
M R said:
Since two digits repeat, a difference of two in the powers of ten that you use leave no decimal part when you subtract.

If you use 1000 and 10 you will get

1000x=3547.474747...

10x=35.474747...

So 990x=3512 and x=3512/990=1756/495.

I'm adopting Soroban's approach as I prefer it to what I did earlier.

"a difference of two in the powers of ten" -- what do you mean by this? sorry, english is not my mother tongue. bear with me.
 
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paulmdrdo said:
"a difference of two in the powers of ten" -- what do you me by this? sorry, english is not my mother tongue. bear with me.

No problem.

We have 10^3 and 10^1.

The difference between 3 and 1 is 3-1=2
 
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paulmdrdo said:
how would I decide what appropriate power of ten should i use?

for example i have 3.5474747474... how would you convert this one?

You want to multiply by a power of 10 which enables you to only have the repeating digits shown, and then multiply by a higher power of ten to have exactly the same repeating digits. We require this so that when we subtract, the repeating digits are eliminated.

So in this case, since the 47 repeats, you want the first to read "something.4747474747..." and the second to read "something-else.4747474747..."

What powers of 10 will enable this?
 
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A quick method my dad taught me when I was little, is to put the repeating digits over an equal number of 9's.

1.) $$x=0.1\overline{7}$$

$$10x=1.\overline{7}=1+\frac{7}{9}=\frac{16}{9}$$

$$x=\frac{16}{90}=\frac{8}{45}$$

2.) $$x=3.5\overline{47}$$

$$10x=35.\overline{47}=35+\frac{47}{99}=\frac{3512}{99}$$

$$x=\frac{3512}{990}=\frac{1756}{495}$$
 

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