Converting centrifugal acceleration to frequency

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The discussion revolves around converting centrifugal acceleration to frequency, specifically in the context of a rotating block of wood experiencing centripetal acceleration. The original poster attempts to derive a formula for frequency based on given values of acceleration and radius.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of frequency from centripetal acceleration, questioning the correctness of the original poster's calculations and assumptions. There are inquiries about the proper definitions and relationships between angular velocity, frequency, and period.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations and the need for clarification on the problem statement. There is acknowledgment of correct derivations, but also concerns about significant figures and the ambiguity in the description of the radius of rotation.

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There is a noted ambiguity regarding whether the radius refers to the entire block or the distance from the center of rotation, which affects the calculations. The discussion also highlights the importance of significant figures in reporting the final answer.

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I've calculated this. Is it correct?

a=ω²R => ω=√(a/R)
T(period)=1/ω=1 / (√(a/R))
f = 1/T = √(a/R)
[ if a=10G=100 m/s² ; R=1m ]
then: f = √(a/R) = √(100/1) = 10 hertz

In angular velocity, can I just convert a=ω²R to ω=√(a/R) and write instead of ω=(2π)/T (in the first line)?
 
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You have a mistake in line 2. ##T = \dfrac{2 \pi}{\omega}##. In line 3 you are also saying that T = 1/f (this is correct), which means you are saying that ##\omega = f##, which is not true. The definition is ##\omega = 2 \pi f##.

As to the rest, clearly you are doing more than deriving an expression for frequency. Please post the whole problem statement.

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
You have a mistake in line 2. ##T = \dfrac{2 \pi}{\omega}##. In line 3 you are also saying that T = 1/f (this is correct), which means you are saying that ##\omega = f##, which is not true. The definition is ##\omega = 2 \pi f##.

As to the rest, clearly you are doing more than deriving an expression for frequency. Please post the whole problem statement.

-Dan
Is this now correct?

a=ω²R => ω=√(a/R)
ω=2πf => f = ω/2π

if a=10G=100 m/s² ; R=1m

then:
ω = √(a/R) = 10 rad/s
f = ω/2π = 10/2π = 5/π = 1.59154943 hz
 
NODARman said:
Is this now correct?

a=ω²R => ω=√(a/R)
ω=2πf => f = ω/2π

if a=10G=100 m/s² ; R=1m

then:
ω = √(a/R) = 10 rad/s
f = ω/2π = 10/2π = 5/π = 1.59154943 hz
Yes and no.
Yes: Your derived equation is correct. I have no idea where you got your numbers so I can't verify if you are putting them in right. Again, please post the whole problem.

No: The number you calculated for f is correct. But if you are going to be using g = 10 m/s^2 then your answer shouldn't be given to anywhere near that number of significant digits. Technically your answer should only be to one sigfig but you could probably get away with two. No more.

No: The unit for frequency is written as "Hz" not "hz."

Otherwise, good work.

-Dan
 
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If you take ##g## = 10 m/s2, there is no point in specifying your answer to ten digits ...

##\ ##
 
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topsquark said:
Yes and no.
Yes: Your derived equation is correct. I have no idea where you got your numbers so I can't verify if you are putting them in right. Again, please post the whole problem.

No: The number you calculated for f is correct. But if you are going to be using g = 10 m/s^2 then your answer shouldn't be given to anywhere near that number of significant digits. Technically your answer should only be to one sigfig but you could probably get away with two. No more.

No: The unit for frequency is written as "Hz" not "hz."

Otherwise, good work.

-Dan
So, here's the problem:

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R = 1-meter block of wood rotating in space. Calculate the frequency of rotation, if the centripetal acceleration on the edge of the block is equal to 10Gs or ~100 m/s^2
 
NODARman said:
So, here's the problem:

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R = 1-meter block of wood rotating in space. Calculate the frequency of rotation, if the centripetal acceleration on the edge of the block is equal to 10Gs or ~100 m/s^2
Yep, it looks good, then. Along with the comments made above, that is.

-Dan
 
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NODARman said:
R = 1-meter block of wood rotating in space. Calculate the frequency of rotation, if the centripetal acceleration on the edge of the block is equal to 10Gs or ~100 m/s^2

Is this a 1-meter block that rotates about its middle? If so, the radius of rotation is 0.5 m. The statement "R = 1-meter block" is ambiguous.
 
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topsquark said:
Yep, it looks good, then. Along with the comments made above, that is.

-Dan
Thanks for helping.
 
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kuruman said:
Is this a 1-meter block that rotates about its middle? If so, the radius of rotation is 0.5 m. The statement "R = 1-meter block" is ambiguous.
Well, I meant radius.
 
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NODARman said:
Well, I meant radius.
OK, then.
 
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