Converting equations to linear equations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of converting nonlinear functions into linear forms for graphing purposes, specifically focusing on logarithmic functions and their transformations. Participants explore how to plot functions such as f(x) = 2*log(x) and c = constant * T^(1/2) in a way that yields linear graphs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their attempt to plot f(x) = 2*log(x) by setting log(x) = t, leading to the linear equation y = 2*t, but expresses confusion over the resulting graph.
  • Another participant references a book that suggests plotting c = constant * T^(1/2) as a straight line by setting T^(1/2) = x, seeking clarification on this method.
  • A participant asserts that a straight line is obtained when plotting y against t, but not when plotting y against log(x), indicating a distinction in the approach.
  • There is a question raised about the purpose of graphing nonlinear equations as linear graphs, suggesting it may indicate proportional relationships.
  • One participant suggests studying logarithmic scales as a potential resource for understanding the topic better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of plotting log functions in a linear manner, with some asserting it is not possible while others explore the concept further. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve linearity in these cases.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the conditions under which certain transformations yield linear graphs, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in these transformations.

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Hi, Let's say I have a function f(x) = 2*log(x). I know scientists sometimes plot f(x) on the y axis, but then instead of plotting x on the x-axis they plot log (x) such that the graph becomes linear.

How would i plot a function f(x)= 2*log(x) such that it is linear ?

My attemps - Perhaps i don't understand the logic?
I tried doing this: i set log(x)=t, then i have the equation y=2*t which is linear,

Then i find the values from the equation y=2*t
t y
1 2
2 4
3 6
4 8

Then i plot a graph y on the Y axis and ln(x) on the x axis, but i don't get a linear graph when plotting this :(
 
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I saw from a book that the equation c=constant * T^(1/2) would be plotted as a straight line if you set T^(1/2) =x so you get the graph f(x)=constant*x, and then plot y against T^(1/2) so I was wondering how that worked - the book did not show a working example of how it was plotted.
 
christian0710 said:
Hi, Let's say I have a function f(x) = 2*log(x). I know scientists sometimes plot f(x) on the y axis, but then instead of plotting x on the x-axis they plot log (x) such that the graph becomes linear.

How would i plot a function f(x)= 2*log(x) such that it is linear ?

My attemps - Perhaps i don't understand the logic?
I tried doing this: i set log(x)=t, then i have the equation y=2*t which is linear,

Then i find the values from the equation y=2*t
t y
1 2
2 4
3 6
4 8

Then i plot a graph y on the Y axis and ln(x) on the x axis, but i don't get a linear graph when plotting this :(

You are only going to get a straight line if you plot y vs. t, not y vs. log (x).
 
But if i plot c vs t^(1/2) in the equation c=2*T^(1/2) then i get a straight line. So is it not possible to do the same with the log function?

And what's the point of graphing a nonlinear equation as a linear graph? I guess it always tells us that a variable is proportional to the y-value?
 
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