Coordinates of a point outside a plane

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The discussion revolves around finding the coordinates of a point G located outside a plane defined by three points A, B, and C in 3D space, given the distances from G to each of these points. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to geometry and distance in three dimensions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks hints for determining the coordinates of point G based on known distances from points A, B, and C.
  • Another participant suggests a formula for G based on the coordinates of A, B, and C, but this may not fully address the problem.
  • A participant explains that the distances AG, BG, and CG alone do not provide enough information to uniquely determine G, especially if A, B, and C are collinear.
  • It is noted that if A, B, and C are not collinear and the side of the plane G is on is known, then G's coordinates can be solved using the distance formula or trigonometry.
  • One participant proposes a method involving unit vectors and linear equations to express G in terms of distances and vectors, indicating that this could lead to multiple solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the uniqueness of the solution for G, with some acknowledging the possibility of multiple solutions depending on the configuration of points A, B, and C.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the geometric arrangement of points A, B, and C, and the implications of collinearity on the uniqueness of the solution for G.

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Hello,

If you can get me a hint for solving this matter it would be much appreciated.

I have the 3D coordinates of three points on a plane A, B, C.

There's another point G and we know AG, BG, CG.

My problem is to find the coordinates of point G:cry:

Thanks in advance!
 
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G=(A+AG,B+BG,C+CG) unless I don't understand what you are saying.
 
If you are given:

A=(A_1,A_2,A_3)
B=(B_1,B_2,B_3)
C=(C_1,C_2,C_3)

And you want to find G=(G_1,G_2,G_3), then knowing:

1) AG=|A-G|=((A_1-G_1)^2+(A_2-G_2)^2+(A_3-G_3)^2)^(1/2)
2) BG=|B-G|
3) CG=|C-G|

is not enough information.

Let h be the perpendicular distance from G to the plane. Then if A, B, and C and there is another point G' on the other side of the plane with perpendicular distance h from the plane also satisfynig 1, 2 and 3 so the solution is not unique. If A, B, and C are collinear you can find an entire circle of points satisfying 1, 2 and 3.

If you know that the A, B, and C are not collinear and which side of the plane G is on, then you can solve for the components of G using the distance formula or trigonometry.
 
Thanks mathman and sin(1/x) for your input :shy:.

I've made a drawing with the problem. I hope all the data are there.

Sorry for my omissions.
 

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I get it now. G=A + |AG|a = B + |BG|b = C + |CG|c, where a,b,c are (unknown) unit vectors. By eliminating G, you will have 6 linear equations for the coordinates of a,b, and c. Using the fact they are unit vectors gives 3 quadratic equations. Solving for them will give you the vectors a,b,c. There will be 2 true solutions. When you solve the quadratics there will be extra solutions, so you need to check to see if you get the same value for G from a given set a,b,c.
 
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