Cornell vs. UC Berkeley for Engineering Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for choosing between Cornell University and the University of California, Berkeley for a degree in Engineering Physics. Participants explore various factors including academic reputation, campus environment, safety, and living conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant highlights the strong engineering and physics programs at both institutions but expresses a preference for Cornell's safer environment.
  • Another participant references Richard Feynman's move from Cornell to California, suggesting that the winter weather in Ithaca may be a disadvantage.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of visiting both campuses, particularly during winter, to gauge personal comfort with the climate.
  • Concerns are raised about the higher crime rate in Berkeley compared to Ithaca, with implications for safety and campus life.
  • Housing availability and cost in the Bay Area are noted as significant factors, with a suggestion that both schools are academically comparable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the importance of environmental factors such as safety and climate, while generally agreeing on the academic strengths of both institutions. No consensus is reached on which university is preferable.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific aspects like climate, safety, and housing without resolving how these factors weigh against each other in the decision-making process.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective students considering Cornell or UC Berkeley for Engineering Physics, as well as those interested in the comparative aspects of university environments and living conditions.

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I was very fortunate to get into both Cornell (with the Meinig Scholarship) and Berkeley (with the Regents Scholarship) and have the difficult decision of choosing between the two.
While I know Berkeley is known for its engineering and physics programs, Cornell is apparently strong in that field and its environment feels a lot safer.
If anyone can give insight or anything else, it would be much appreciated!
 
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Well, Feynman left Cornell and went to CA because of the miserable winters in Ithaca. That should tell you something :smile:
 
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Congrats on your very impressive scholarship offers. :smile:

To the point by @phinds -- have you visited both campuses? Have you visited them in the winter?

Full disclosure -- I went from my undergrad at UCDavis in NorCal to my graduate MSEE year in Michigan under scholarship, and was able to layer up to deal with the winters... :smile:
 
Berkeley is in a major metropolitan area. Hop on the BART and you can be in San Francisco in no time. Cornell...um...is not.

The crime rate in Berkeley is 35% higher than Ithaca. Is that significant? Maybe. It certainly has more homeless, and it certainly has more demonstrations that are, as they say, "mostly peaceful".

Academically, both are excellent.
 
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Look into housing availability and cost. The Bay Area is difficult in that regard. It's a great place to live, but everyone else wants to live there too.
Academically, I don't think it matters. They are both great schools.
 
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