Correct statement about transverse wave propagating along a string

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My answer is (1) only but my teacher said (3) is also correct. I don't understand why, I think when the wave is moving to the left both Q and R will be moving upwards, no?

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songoku said:
My answer is (1) only but my teacher said (3) is also correct. I don't understand why, I think when the wave is moving to the left both Q and R will be moving upwards, no?
Seems that way to me : you could ask them to expand on their response, see if they have the right particles.
 
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Only 2 is correct. 1)Since P is moving downward the wave is going to right as p approaches to right. 2)Yes, since R has a longer way to go. 3) Both are going to right.
 
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planck999 said:
Only 2 is correct. 1)Since P is moving downward the wave is going to right as p approaches to right. 2)Yes, since R has a longer way to go. 3) Both are going to right.
No. Each point on the string is moving up or down only. For P to be moving down, you need to find the displacement direction of the wave for which the wave at P is lower in the next instant. This occurs when the wave moves left.

2) No. The wave will have passed S completely first and the statement is false.

3) Is false regardless of direction of wave motion.

Please do not confuse students if you are not 100% certain of the answer.
 
Thank you very much hmmm27, Planck999, haruspex, kuruman, Orodruin
 
Orodruin said:
For P to be moving down, you need to find the displacement direction of the wave for which the wave at P is lower in the next instant. This occurs when the wave moves left.
To put that in slightly more mathematical terms:

A wave moving left/right is given by the displacement ##u(x,t) = f(x \pm ct)## (with upper sign for a wave moving left). At a given point ##x = x_0##, the up/down motion of the string is given by ##u_t(x_0,t) = \pm c f'(x_0 \pm ct) = \pm c u_x(x_0,t)##. The string is moving down at ##x_0## if this is negative. Since the x-derivative at P is negative, we need the positive sign for the full expression to be negative, i.e., the wave is moving left.
 
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