Correlation and mathematical expectation question

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to mathematical expectation and correlation involving random variables. The first problem concerns finding the expected values of the maximum and minimum of independent random variables uniformly distributed in the interval (0,1). The second problem involves evaluating the correlation between sums of random variables that are uncorrelated pairwise, each with a mean of 0 and variance of 1.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two problems involving independent random variables and expresses uncertainty about how to approach them.
  • Another participant cites external sources claiming that the expected value of the maximum of n independent uniform random variables is $$\frac{n}{n+1}$$ and the expected value of the minimum is $$\frac{1}{n+1}$$.
  • A third participant acknowledges the provided solutions as clear.
  • Another participant questions how to find the joint probability density function $$f_{X,Y}(x,y)$$ when the independence of variables X and Y is unknown.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the second problem regarding the correlation evaluation, as the initial poster expresses uncertainty about the independence of the random variables, while another participant provides solutions without addressing this uncertainty. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correlation question.

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The discussion does not clarify the assumptions regarding the independence of the random variables in the second problem, nor does it resolve the implications of the provided expected values in relation to the original poster's uncertainty.

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Hi, I have these 2 problem, that I'm not so sure how to handle.

1-Let $$X_1,X_2,...,X_n$$ independent Random variable that all follow a continuous uniform distribution in (0,1)
a) Find $$E[Max(X_1,X_2,...,X_n)]$$
b) Find $$E[Min(X_1,X_2,...,X_n)]$$

where E is for the mathematical expectation. I'm not so sure how to tackle such a question.

2-Let$$ X_1, X_2, X_3 and X_4$$ are Random variable with no correlation two by two.
Each with mathematical expectation = 0 and variance =1. Evaluate the Correlation for

a-$$ X_1+X_2 and X_2+X_3$$

b-$$X_1+X_2 and X_3+X_4$$

I know that $$Corr(X_1+X_2,X_2+X_3)=\frac{Cov(X_1+X_2,X_2+X_3)}{ \sqrt {Var(X_1+X_2)*Var(X_2+X_3)}}$$

All I can think of is using the CTL, but since I don't know if they're independent I can't use it? Also we've seen the CTL after been giving this problem.

Thanks for passing by!
 
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Re: correlation and mathematical expectation question

Barioth said:
Hi, I have these 2 problem, that I'm not so sure how to handle.

1-Let $$X_1,X_2,...,X_n$$ independent Random variable that all follow a continuous uniform distribution in (0,1)

a) Find $$E[Max(X_1,X_2,...,X_n)]$$

b) Find $$E[Min(X_1,X_2,...,X_n)]$$

In...

http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f52/unsolved-statistic-questions-other-sites-part-ii-1566/index6.html

... it has been found that...

$\displaystyle E \{ Max X_{i}, i=1,2,...,n\} = \frac{n}{n+1}$ (1)

It is very easy to find that is...

$\displaystyle E \{ Min X_{i}, i=1,2,...,n\} = \frac{1}{n+1}$ (2)

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Re: correlation and mathematical expectation question

Thanks it's a pretty clean solution!
 
Re: correlation and mathematical expectation question

I was wondering, if I'm given the probability density of X and Y and we do not know if they are inderpendant. Is there a way to find $$f_{X,Y}(x,y)$$?
 

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