Could Passing Asteroids Alter Milanković Cycles and Trigger Climate Change?

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The discussion explores the hypothetical impact of close fly-bys of large asteroids on the Milanković cycles and potential climate change effects. Participants consider the implications of such events on Earth's climate, including the possibility of triggering ice ages or significant warming.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a sufficiently large asteroid or a group of large bodies passing close to Earth could alter the Milanković cycles, potentially leading to climate changes.
  • Another participant provides a technical analysis of Chiron, a large object with a small mass, and estimates its potential impact on Earth's velocity and temperature, indicating that even minor changes would be unlikely to have significant effects.
  • A different participant speculates that larger bodies, such as those the size of the Moon, could have a more dramatic effect on the Milanković cycles if they were to pass close to Earth.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of basing discussions on established facts and known data, expressing concern over speculative claims.

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Participants express differing views on the potential effects of asteroids on climate and the Milanković cycles. While some explore the hypothetical scenarios, others caution against speculation and emphasize adherence to established scientific knowledge.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the size and proximity of asteroids, as well as the speculative nature of potential climate impacts. The discussion also reflects a tension between exploratory ideas and the forum's guidelines on speculation.

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What phenomena could possibly affect Milanković cycles?
Our planet being smacked by a huge asteroid is a common doomsday trope. But what if our planet didn't actually get smacked but came close to getting smacked? Could a sufficiently large body, or perhaps a group of several large bodies, pass close enough to alter the workings of the Milanković cycles such that our planet might go into a premature ice age or heat up enough to melt the polar ice caps for good? Are there any other theoretical phenomena that could accomplish the same?
 
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Earth is big compared to every object that could realistically make a close fly-by.

Chiron with a diameter of ~200 km is the largest object in a very unstable orbit. It has a non-zero chance to make a close fly-by at Earth in the next few million years. It has less than 1/100,000 of Earth's mass. An ideal close fly-by could potentially change Earth's velocity by ~0.1 m/s, changing the mean distance to the Sun by up to 1 part in 300,000 and changing the equilibrium temperature by something like 0.001 K (all orders of magnitude estimates). The global average temperature is currently rising by ~0.2 K per decade, so this is of the same scale as one month of global warming in either direction - and even that needs extremely unlikely conditions to happen.
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that our planet might go into a premature ice age or heat up enough to melt the polar ice caps for good? Are there any other theoretical phenomena that could accomplish the same?
Humans are working on the ice caps...
 
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Appreciate the detailed response. I was aware that the known bodies that could possibly give us a close call are relatively small; you show that even a small body like Chiron could tweak things, albeit just a wee bit. I would assume then that larger bodies would do considerably more tweaking. Think of something the size of our moon, or maybe even a couple of bodies that big, traveling in tandem. Or even bigger bodies. Would it be safe to assume that IF such a thing were to happen that it would have a dramatic effect on the Milanković cycles? (If you take this and run with it, you might be able to pitch it to Hollywood as the plot for a blockbuster disaster movie.)
 
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