Could Stereoscopic Imaging with Heliocentric Satellites Revolutionize Astronomy?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and potential benefits of using stereoscopic imaging with heliocentric satellites for astronomical observations. Participants explore the concept of placing two satellites in heliocentric orbit to capture simultaneous images of celestial objects, aiming to create depth perception similar to human stereoscopic vision.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of using two satellites in heliocentric orbit to create stereoscopic images of deep space, suggesting that this could enhance depth perception for astronomical observations.
  • Another participant explains that parallax is a well-established method for measuring distances to nearby stars, typically using Earth's orbit rather than distant satellites.
  • Some participants note that while space-based observations can be more accurate, the need for distant satellites may not be justified given the effectiveness of existing methods using Earth's movement.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited number of stars close enough to measure parallax effectively, suggesting that the proposed method may not significantly benefit most stars.
  • A participant mentions NASA's STEREO satellites, which provide stereoscopic views of the Sun, indicating that similar approaches have been successfully implemented for specific targets.
  • Further contributions highlight advancements in parallax measurements, with references to the Hipparcos and Gaia missions, which have improved the precision of distance measurements for a larger number of stars.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the practicality and utility of the proposed stereoscopic imaging method. While some acknowledge the potential benefits, others emphasize the limitations and existing alternatives, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity and effectiveness of the proposed approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the distances involved and the effectiveness of existing astronomical techniques. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the practicality of launching and operating distant satellites for this purpose.

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Hello people, first i need to say that i am quite a newb for astronomy.
I have a idea about creating deep space stereoscopic images.
I was wondered if it is usable to place two satellites(space telescopes) in heliocentric orbit, with distance approximately that of pluto , that are 180 degrees one from another - each on a different side of the sun. They would simultaneously take pictures of same sectors of space, thus creating a stereoscopic image of a star cluster, planetary system or whatever.
I have calculated that this could create valuable stereo-images , by analogy of my stereoscopic view.
I can clearly distinguish image dept at 10 km distance with my eyes, so i divided that distance with the distance between my eyes - 10km/6cm = 166666.666
166666.666*(29.657*2) AU(pluto perihelion) =9.88566663e+06
9.88566663e+06 /63241 AU(light year)= 156.31 light years.

29.657*2 - pluto perihelion *2 - distance between the satellites
all astronomical distances are in AU


I think that dept perception can be distinguished even at distances greater then 10 km for human eye, and computer vision is clearly superior and more sensitive then the human eye.
Still even if it is just 156 ly, there are thousands of stars to observe.
Are my calculations valid?
And could this idea be somehow useful for astronomy?
 
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Hi Bob, welcome to PF!

What you're talking about is called parallax, and is routinelly used to determine distances to nearby stars. Rather than facing the technological challenges involved in placing telescopes in deep space, astronomers tend to use the convenient natural solar satellite - the Earth. By making observations of a given objects at two times, half a year apart, they can observe the parallactic displacement of the target with respect to the so called "background stars". Earth's orbit only gives you 2AU triangulation base, but you should see how the loss of accuracy over your ~60 AU proposition is outweighed by the convenience factor.

Wiki has got a nice article on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax
 
It is possible to get more accurate observations from space, but there's no need to send a satellite very far as the Earth itself moves to either side during the year.

The Hipparcos satellite made parallax and proper motion observations of this type from Earth orbit. (It was intended to go into geostationary orbit, but ended up in a transfer orbit instead, but was still able to achieve its mission objectives).
 
Of course there is only a handful of stars close enough to have measurable parallax. For the vast majority of stars this would not help much if at all.
 
Yeah... Parallax , i have forgotten that term
well Wikipedia sort of answered my questions.
Given a second thought , it is not so bright idea to send two satellites on a 12 year trip to function for a perhaps half of that time, given that Hubble space telescope was regularly repaired.
And 2 AU or 60 AU is not as essential as i previously thought.
Thanks for the help ppl :)
 
Integral said:
Of course there is only a handful of stars close enough to have measurable parallax. For the vast majority of stars this would not help much if at all.

The Hipparcos satellite measured the parallax of over 50,000 stars. I guess this is a "handful" if you have big hands! The Gaia satellite, set to launch soon, will extend this to a billion stars. Parallax measurements just keep getting better. Gaia has a goal of positional accuracy of 24 μas, which is the parallax of an object at about 100,000 light-years distance. This is most of the stars in our galaxy.
 
Integral said:
Of course there is only a handful of stars close enough to have measurable parallax. For the vast majority of stars this would not help much if at all.

You underestimate today's optics, CCD's, and the clarity afforded by being in space. Read up about Gaia mission. ~15 µas precision for stars with magnitude 15 and less!
 

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