Could This Be a Nova or Supernova Seen on Dec 26?

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The discussion centers around an observation made by an amateur astrophotographer who witnessed two bright sources near Regulus on December 26. Participants explore the nature of these sources, considering possibilities such as nova, supernova, or satellite flares, while debating the characteristics and behavior of the observed phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Matt describes observing two bright, non-moving sources near Regulus, which peaked in brightness and then dimmed rapidly.
  • Some participants suggest that the rapid dimming rules out nova or supernova events, which typically take longer to evolve.
  • One participant proposes that the observed sources could be high-orbiting satellites, potentially rotating slowly enough to appear stationary for a brief period.
  • Another participant mentions the improbability of two stars going nova simultaneously from our perspective, reinforcing the satellite theory.
  • There is a suggestion that the observed phenomena might be flares from Iridium satellites, which can appear very bright and have specific visibility patterns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the observed sources. While some lean towards satellite explanations, others consider the possibility of nova or supernova events, albeit with skepticism regarding the rapid dimming observed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of the observations, including the brief duration of visibility and the lack of movement, which complicates the identification of the sources. There is also uncertainty regarding the specific types of satellites that could account for the observations.

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Hi all,
I’m an amateur astrophotographer, and while I was I was shooting frames just this morning (approx 5.50GMT, Dec 26), something very peculiar was seen.Two non-existent bright sources (approx 4 or 5° apart) were popping up around next to Regulus, and peaked in brightness almost immediately.
They remained like this for around 30 seconds, after which one of the sources dimmed nearly instantaneous, whereas the other dimmed over the next 10 seconds to almost invisible with the naked eye. I was too slow to send my telescope in the right direction, but have managed to shoot some follow up frames thereafter, which I am processing now.
The brightness of the objects was around -1, and they were non-moving. As such, this would rule out planes/satellites.
What could this have been? Have there been any other reports?

Kind regards,
Matt
 
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Here is a site that you can send your report to.

http://www.supernovae.net/snimages/vsnet.html"
 
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Does this description sound familiar? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe...April_3#an_extra_star_in_the_big_dipper.3F.21

They're not supernovae/novae if they disappeared in 30 seconds, because supernovae/novae take weeks to brighten and fade out. One possibility is a high-orbiting, slowly rotating satellite. It could be orbiting so slowly that you didn't notice movement, and rotating slowly enough that you saw glare from the Sun for 30 seconds.
 
I'll add that it's incredibly improbable for two stars separated by 5° (which, in all likelihood, means they are light years from each other) to go nova simultaneously from our point of view.

They were probably satellites. Your observations rule out two of the most common types: they were moving too slow for satellites in low Earth orbit, and they were in the wrong place in the sky for satellites in the geostationary orbit. They could've been GPS satellites.
 
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What you described sounds like a flare from an Iridium satellite. This website http://www.heavens-above.com" gives 7 day predictions based on your location. Iridium flares can be as bright as -9. The first few times that you see one, it looks like they aren't moving. With a little practice, you can see the movement. Also, the brighter ones last longer and you can see their movement better.
 
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