Infrared Detectors & The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

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The discussion centers on the interaction between infrared photodetectors, specifically PN junction HgCdTe detectors, and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Participants explore the feasibility of generating current from black body radiation emitted by room temperature water (300K) using these detectors in photovoltaic mode without an applied bias voltage. The consensus is that while the detectors can respond to infrared radiation, the 2nd Law is not violated as the energy extracted is insufficient to perform useful work without a temperature gradient.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of infrared photodetectors, particularly PN junction HgCdTe technology.
  • Familiarity with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and its implications on energy extraction.
  • Knowledge of black body radiation and its spectral characteristics at various temperatures.
  • Basic principles of photovoltaic operation and current responsivity in detectors.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of black body radiation and its mathematical representation.
  • Study the operational characteristics of HgCdTe infrared photodetectors in detail.
  • Explore the implications of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics in practical applications.
  • Investigate methods for enhancing the efficiency of infrared detectors in energy harvesting applications.
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Researchers in thermodynamics, engineers working with infrared photodetectors, and astrophotographers interested in the intersection of thermodynamics and photodetection technology.

  • #151
Shining a laser at an underwater photodiode to produce power violates no laws of thermodynamics. I could run solar panels in my swimming pool if I really wanted to. Why do you wish to do this?
This is quite different from your initial scenario.
 
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  • #152
hutchphd said:
Shining a laser at an underwater photodiode to produce power violates no laws of thermodynamics. I could run solar panels in my swimming pool if I really wanted to. Why do you wish to do this?
This is quite different from your initial scenario.

So now I make a really big detector and point it at a 300k lake surface, to heat the 320k water with the 3.5 micrometer photon flux off the 300k surface, with no laser.
 
  • #153
This thread has run its course. You've been repeatedly told that what you suggest isn't possible and you're chasing your tail (and getting others to chase it) making little changes to your scenario to try to keep it alive. Thread closed.
 
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