Could Time Travel Be Possible By Studying Particle Motion in the CERN Collider?

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The discussion centers on the concept of time travel as it relates to particle motion observed in the CERN particle collider. Participants clarify that while particles such as electrons and protons experience time dilation when accelerated to speeds close to the speed of light, this does not equate to actual time travel. The consensus is that it is impossible for massive objects to reach the speed of light, thus limiting the feasibility of time travel. Relevant theories and principles, such as closed timelike curves and the Novikov self-consistency principle, are mentioned as frameworks for understanding the complexities of time travel.

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hi,


in the CERN particle collider they have found out that the particles are moving in time.can this concept be put to reality after studying the motion of the particles in the CERN collider

all answers are welcome
 
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ananthan345 said:
hi,


in the CERN particle collider they have found out that the particles are moving in time.can this concept be put to reality after studying the motion of the particles in the CERN collider

all answers are welcome

We are all moving in time.

Can you be more specific? Perhaps you should start by linking to an article that describes this 'moving in time' you speak of.
 
ananthan345 said:
hi,


in the CERN particle collider they have found out that the particles are moving in time.can this concept be put to reality after studying the motion of the particles in the CERN collider

all answers are welcome
Well the particles suffer time dilation but that is a different concept from time travel. Are you talking about time dilation?
 
particle can be accelerated like electrons protons they are charged particles easy to accelerate so they can travel or suffer Time dilution
it's very hard for large bodies or impossible to reach speed of light
 
sciboudy said:
particle can be accelerated like electrons protons they are charged particles easy to accelerate so they can travel or suffer Time dilution
it's very hard for large bodies or impossible to reach speed of light

It is impossible for anything with mass to reach the speed of light.
 
ryan_m_b said:
It is impossible for anything with mass to reach the speed of light.

electrons have mass and protons i know that they are in cern could accelerate protons
to reach 99 speed of light
can you Explain please
 
sciboudy said:
electrons have mass and protons i know that they are in cern could accelerate protons
to reach 99 speed of light
can you Explain please

None of those particles actually got to the speed of light. So I'm not sure what further explanation that you want. Getting "close" isn't exactly reaching it.

Zz.
 
Just out of curiosity - If I built a time machine in 20 years, and then went back in time and gave it to myself 20 years earlier, wouldn't I have always had it? Meaning I wouldn't of had to invent it in the first place?
 
ryan_m_b said:
It is impossible for anything with mass to reach the speed of light.

I don't think he's saying otherwise.
It's convoluted but read what he said again.

It's hard to accelerate large bodies to near the speed of light. (True) It's impossible to get bodies to reach the speed of light. (True)

particle can be accelerated like electrons protons they are charged particles easy to accelerate so they can travel or suffer Time dilution
it's very hard for large bodies or impossible to reach speed of light


Besides, he's talking about time dilution, which is a completely different question. :biggrin:
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I don't think he's saying otherwise.
It's convoluted but read what he said again.

It's hard to accelerate large bodies to near the speed of light. (True) It's impossible to get bodies to reach the speed of light. (True)

Besides, he's talking about time dilution, which is a completely different question. :biggrin:

It was the "hard or impossible" that threw me. As for time dilution, is that like homeopathy for physics? :-p

Cbray said:
Just out of curiosity - If I built a time machine in 20 years, and then went back in time and gave it to myself 20 years earlier, wouldn't I have always had it? Meaning I wouldn't of had to invent it in the first place?

Considering it is currently understood that time travel is most likely not possible this question cannot be answered. It's essentially asking "assuming impossible thing X is possible thanks to unexplained phenomenon Y how would X work?". However for your own interest here are some interesting links regarding aspects of time travel;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_protection_conjecture
 

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