Is time real (in a physical sense)?

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The discussion centers around the nature of time, questioning whether it is a physical quantity akin to mass or merely a descriptive term for the progression of dynamic processes. Participants explore implications of these views, particularly in relation to concepts like time travel.

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  • One participant questions if time is a physical quantity or just a label for dynamic processes, suggesting that if time is not a physical quantity, time travel would require reversing all physical processes.
  • Another participant challenges the use of the term "real," arguing that what happens to an object should be considered real, and that time is part of the description of events rather than an inherent property of objects.
  • A clarification is made regarding the definition of "real," with a focus on whether time is a physical object or merely a description, linking this to the implications of time travel.
  • Another participant asserts that time is a physical quantity measured in seconds, while also describing it as an interval between events, suggesting that the question does not present a dichotomy but highlights the complexity of the subject.
  • The concept of time fields, time flow, and the "arrow of time" is mentioned as an area of ongoing discussion, with a suggestion that mathematics could treat time as a field, though this may lead to circular definitions.

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Participants express differing views on whether time is a physical quantity or a descriptive term, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Participants note the complexity of defining time and its implications for concepts like time travel, with discussions highlighting the potential circularity in definitions related to velocity and time flow.

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As in, is it a physical quantity/parameter like mass or is it a descriptive name that we give to the flow of dynamic processes?

This is not a theory or idea, just a question that I feel compelled to ask after reading an article that claims that a study shows that time travel would be possible under certain circumstances although it would not be possible to change the present by traveling in the past.

And I feel compelled to ask this because if time is not a physical quantity but a label for describing dynamic processes then traveling in the past, for example, would mean basically reversing all physical processes to a previous state, like a previous snapshot of the physical reality including reviving dead persons that were alive in the past (but not in present) and so on. And not only this but also the entire Universe must revert to a previous state for time travel in the past to be possible.

I hope I didn't break any rules by asking this, I'm really curious about that.
 
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dendros said:
As in, is it a physical quantity/parameter like mass or is it a descriptive name that we give to the flow of dynamic processes?
Use of the word "real" here is problematic to me, because why shouldn't what happens to an object be real? But yes, time is part of the description of what happens to an object, not an inherent parameter of the object itself. Like velocity or location/displacement.
 
Then I should clarify: by "real" I was asking if time is a physical "object" like a field, body, etc or a just a description. If it's just a description then time travel would imply what I described in the OP but of course I'm not sure so that's why I opened this topic.
 
dendros said:
As in, is it a physical quantity/parameter like mass or is it a descriptive name that we give to the flow of dynamic processes?

Time is a physical quantity measured by clocks in SI units seconds.

Time also describes interval between events, duration and sequence of events.

Thus, your question exposes no dichotomy but does illustrate the fascinating nature of the subject. Humans appear to experience time and can directly measure interval by monitoring our heartbeats, close to a second apart.

Time fields, time flow and the "arrow of time" metaphor remain sources of lively discussion. (Search PF threads with these keywords, if interested.) Presumably one could employ a mathematics that treats time as a field. Difficult to avoid circularity defining a realistic time flow, given the definition of velocity mentioned in an earlier post.
 
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