Couple Questions Regarding REU's and Time Commitments

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations related to applying for Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs) and the associated time commitments. Participants explore strategies for reaching out to professors, the preparation of application materials, and the expected workload of an REU, particularly in relation to balancing other commitments such as work and classes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests emailing professors about potential research openings, including a brief academic background, and inquiring about what to include in the email.
  • Another participant recommends preparing a CV and cover letter, treating the outreach like a job application, and networking for additional opportunities.
  • Concerns are raised about the typical time commitment for an REU, with one participant stating that it is generally expected to be at least a full-time job (40 hours per week), while acknowledging variability in individual experiences.
  • One participant notes that the pay for an REU is usually substantial, which aligns with the expectation of a full-time commitment.
  • There is uncertainty expressed about the feasibility of participating in an REU while managing a full-time job and academic responsibilities, with one participant contemplating the possibility of taking summer classes off to focus on research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the time commitment required for an REU, with some suggesting it should be treated as a full-time job while others indicate that it may not be strictly enforced. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to balancing an REU with other commitments.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of workload management and the potential impact on academic performance, highlighting the need for careful consideration of time allocation when pursuing an REU.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering REUs, particularly those balancing work and academic commitments, may find this discussion relevant as it addresses practical concerns and strategies for application.

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I attended a seminar type thing at school regarding the path to graduate school and it was a wake up call of sorts. My eventual plan is to attend graduate school so of course anything I can do to help my application is good. I had or will have most of the requirements complete by the time I graduate, except a big one - research.

As summer applications have passed, I was thinking of emailing some of the professors at school asking if they had any last minute openings as well as what they had going for fall. This was a suggestion given by the two professors giving the lecture. Here are where my questions come in.

Since it isn't a formal REU application, what should one include in the email? I was thinking of asking if they had anything available and a quick academic background on myself. Nothing to long since it isn't a formal application. What else should I include do you think?

Lastly, what sort of time commitment does an REU take? In the seminar they stated around 10 hours per week in the lab was the norm. Is there usually an outside time commitment as well? Currently I work 40 hours per week and attend school 10-12. I should be able to fit an additional 10 hours in lab time (just sleep less, right?), but I don't know about outside commitment. Since it'll be my first one, I don't really want to blow it. I suppose I could cut out a class to devote more time, but I'd rather not do that.

Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated. This is in the US if that matters.
 
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I would recommend putting together a CV and then combine this with a cover letter. Approach this like you would applying for a job. Network. Ask the people you contact if they don't have anything if they could recommend someone who might, and feel free to forward your CV.

As far as time-in goes, it's hard to say. Over the summer, I would primarily see if I could find something that pays and then treat it like a full-time job. During class time, put in as much time as you can afford, but (1) don't do so at the expense of sacrificing marks and (2) don't do so at the expense of sacrificing sleep.
 
erok81 said:
Lastly, what sort of time commitment does an REU take? In the seminar they stated around 10 hours per week in the lab was the norm. Is there usually an outside time commitment as well? Currently I work 40 hours per week and attend school 10-12. I should be able to fit an additional 10 hours in lab time (just sleep less, right?), but I don't know about outside commitment. Since it'll be my first one, I don't really want to blow it. I suppose I could cut out a class to devote more time, but I'd rather not do that.

An REU is generally expected to be at least a full time job, i.e. 40hrs/week. It's been my experience (only 1 REU thus far) that this isn't a hard number or anything, as some people probably work a bit more and some a bit less (though all are paid equally). The pay for an REU is usually also quite good for a college student (~4-6k for 10 weeks), so it makes sense for it to be a full time job.

If for whatever reason you simply cannot work full time, but only maybe 10hrs/wk, I'm not sure how successful you will be. It's generally a lot of effort for a professor to accept an undergraduate, as it often takes more time than it's probably worth to train them and have them produce anything meaningful. At any rate, being willing to work full time will definitely help your chances.
 
Thanks for the information. It's not looking so good for me an research it seems. I think I really only have two options; take the summer off for classes and do the reu or just chance it and not have any under my belt when the time comes around to applying for graduate school.
 

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