Crankcase Scavenging: What Does it Mean for Automobiles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of crankcase scavenging in automobiles, exploring its meaning, implications for engine performance, and specific applications in racing engines. Participants delve into the technical aspects and practical considerations of implementing crankcase scavenging systems.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a clear definition of crankcase scavenging, indicating difficulty finding satisfactory information online.
  • Another participant explains that crankcase scavenging involves removing combustion products and oil vapor from the crankcase, typically using a breather system that filters and returns gases to the inlet tract.
  • A different participant discusses crankcase vacuum in racing engines, detailing how a dry sump system with multiple scavenge stages can create sufficient vacuum to enhance power output by improving ring seal and reducing windage losses at high RPM.
  • This participant notes that optimal crankcase vacuum levels are around 8 to 10 inches of mercury (HG) for power gains, with diminishing returns beyond certain vacuum levels unless specific conditions are met.
  • Concerns are raised about lubrication issues when operating at high crankcase vacuum levels, suggesting additional measures such as piston oilers and special crankshaft seals may be necessary.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the responses and mentions that understanding the terms "crankcase" and "scavenging" separately helped clarify the concept of crankcase scavenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present varying levels of understanding and detail regarding crankcase scavenging, with some technical aspects being debated, particularly in the context of racing engines. No consensus is reached on a singular definition or approach.

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Participants express differing levels of familiarity with the terminology and concepts involved, which may affect their interpretations. The discussion includes assumptions about the audience's prior knowledge of engine mechanics and racing systems.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in automotive engineering, particularly those focused on performance tuning, racing engine design, and crankcase ventilation systems.

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What does crankcase scvenging mean in terms of an automobile ?? .I searched all around the net but didn't get single satisfactory result.
 
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Getting combustion products and oil vapour out of the crankcase, usually (these days) using a breather system which filters these gases and returns them to the inlet tract. A google search gave me dozens of good references, what kind of 'satisfactory' result do you need?
 
I think your are referring to crankcase vacuum in a race engine.

Specifically, if you run a dry sump system with a three stage pump (one pressure stage, two scavenge stages), in most cases you cannot achieve a sufficient level (8 "HG) of crankcase vacuum to achieve that power gain. If you go to a four stage pump you can gain 2 HP per cylinder. The reduced pressure ("vacuum") in the crankcase is generated by having a substantial excess of scavenging capacity with respect to the engine's oil flow rate. The "vacuum" increases the pressure differential across the ring package, producing an improved ring seal. The improved ring seal allows the use of a low-tension (reduced friction) ring package, yielding a power increase as well. Further, the reduced crankcase pressure dramatically reduces windage losses at high RPM. In most engines, the expected power gains will occur with 8 to 10 inches HG crankcase vacuum. Beyond that point, more vacuum does not generally produce any measurable power gain until (a) you get more than 20 inches HG of vacuum AND (b) you are operating in excess of approximately 8300 RPM. Generally you size the system to produce around 14 "HG when the engine is fresh. That provides sufficient capacity so that as the engine wears and blowby increases, there will still be sufficient scavenging capacity to achieve the 8"HG minimum, and power does not drop off noticeably. If you want to run a high level of crankcase vacuum (18 inches HG or more), there must be provisions in the engine to supplement the lubrication that is lost due to windage. There will likely be problems with at least wrist pin and cam follower lubrication. The best solution will be the addition of piston oilers and, if your engine has a flat tappet cam, provisions for extra lubrication of the cam lobe-to-lifter interface will certainly be required. If you are trying to achieve over 18 "HG, you will need to install special crankshaft seals (front and rear) which have the sealing lips reversed to hold that higher level.
 
Thankyou both for your replies, especially Ranger Mike. But, i could make the definition for me to understand very well, by separately reading meaning of "Crankcase" in depth and then "Scavenging". Adding bothe the definions you'll know about Crankcase Scavenging. ^_^
 

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