Creating an Automatic Fish Feeder Without Jamming

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing an automatic fish feeder that minimizes the risk of jamming while utilizing a low torque motor. Participants explore various design strategies, materials, and mechanisms to ensure effective food dispensing without mechanical failures.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial design using a paddle wheel and a low torque motor, expressing concerns about jamming and seeking industry solutions.
  • Another participant suggests an overshot wheel design that eliminates the shelf, allowing food to fall directly into the tank.
  • A different participant recommends considering airlocks or rotary valves as potential solutions to the jamming issue.
  • Further discussion includes the clarification of design elements, such as the concept of a knife edge in relation to the wheel design.
  • Participants discuss the motor's capabilities, noting its weak power and the implications for the design's effectiveness in shearing through food pellets.
  • One participant proposes using foam or rubber materials for the contact surface to reduce binding forces, suggesting that slight variations in pellet dispensing would not be detrimental.
  • Participants express intentions to prototype various designs and share results, indicating ongoing experimentation and refinement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on design strategies and mechanisms to prevent jamming, with no consensus reached on a single solution. The discussion remains open-ended as participants explore different ideas and approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of various design elements, such as the strength of the motor and the suitability of materials used in the feeder. There are also unresolved questions about the specific implementation of suggested designs.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY projects, particularly those focused on automated feeding systems for aquariums, as well as those exploring mechanical design challenges in low-power applications.

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I'm making an automatic fish feeder. It uses a very low torque, low RPM, low energy motor to turn a paddle wheel. The paddle wheel pushes the food off a ledge and into the tank.

I plan to make the paddle wheel using a gear. I also have access to a 3d printer to make the part.

The motor is definitely something I am going to use since it runs for a month on just a AA and I have it and I am not willing to mess with electronics.

THE PROBLEM: Jamming. I am planning to make the paddles very flexible to reduce jamming. I don't want to add vibration motors.

What designs/tricks/tactics are used in the industry to prevent jamming? I imagine this is a common problem. I'm not married to the paddle wheel idea, just to the motor I am using.


Here's a picture of what I imagine miught happen.
http://imgur.com/XlMzUTg

Much appreciation for any help!
 
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You have an undershot drive wheel that pinches the material against the shelf. Consider an overshot wheel where the hopper material is placed on top of the wheel with a knife edge to cut the depth of material. The shelf is eliminated since the food will fall off the wheel into the tank.
 
Adding on to what Baluncore said: look into airlocks or rotary valves.

http://www.iac-intl.com/resource/airlock%20article%20for%20publish.pdf
 
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Thank you all for the valueable info. What do you think of this new design given the design suggestions?
I did not understand what a knife edge is though in reference to wheels.

http://i42.tinypic.com/bgp5dc.jpg
 
DScheuf, don't feel insulted because I didn't name it after you. You get the next revision lol.
 
Don't worry; it's not like I'll be bitter or anything. haha. I think the design looks good. I like how the vane will shear through the granular material.

What kind of flow rates are you looking at?
 
The motor is a clock movement. So 1 rotation every 12 hours. Or 1 rotation per hour depending on which "hand" i use.
 
The motor is very weak, I doubt the vane could actually shear through a pellet.

I didn't answer your question well. My fish usually eats 2 times per day, 5 pellets each time. So my design goal is to match that at a rate of 5 pellets every 12 hours.

I chose the hopper design because it has the potential to hold a weeks' worth of food. Also because I could make wheels with deeper teeth to feed more fish should I buy more.
 
Just a thought, but you could form the contact surface (between the vanes and the hopper) with a sort of foam material (that won't retain much moisture) or rubber skirt (think: the flipper/slapper thing on wheel of fortune) so that the binding force would be less. It's not catastrophic if your fish get 4 or 6 pellets rather than 5, so a little slip up here and there wouldn't kill you.
 
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See attached. My knife edge solution.
 

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Baluncore, now I get it. I'm going to have a few designs printed up and see how they work. It will take me awhile to make each design in sketchup.


Travis_King, that's a good idea.

I'm going to post the results when I have something. Thanks for the help so far!
 

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