Dealing with Bat Poop: Bleach Removes Stains Quickly

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This discussion focuses on the effectiveness of bleach in removing bat feces stains from surfaces. It is established that undiluted bleach acts quickly due to its interaction with the chromophore in the feces, while a five-fold dilution results in negligible cleaning effect due to insufficient active molecules. The pH level of bleach also plays a critical role; bleach is most effective at a pH below 6.8, where it exists primarily as hypochlorite (HOCl). The discussion suggests that varying concentrations of bleach and the pH of the solution significantly influence its stain-removing capabilities.

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A tall tree looms over my property. Bats eat its fruit then dump their purple poop on my sidewalk. Bleach removes the stains in seconds. But dilute the bleach by a factor of five and nothing happens. I thought it would take five times longer to have the same effect. Nope, nothing doing. Can anyone suggest an experiment that might explain this?
 
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Hornbein said:
A tall tree looms over my property. Bats eat its fruit then dump their purple poop on my sidewalk. Bleach removes the stains in seconds. But dilute the bleach by a factor of five and nothing happens. I thought it would take five times longer to have the same effect. Nope, nothing doing. Can anyone suggest an experiment that might explain this?
Bleach interacts with the chromophore, the coloured part of the molecule, in your case fruit juice/ cells.

Diluting it down just has less effect, less molecules are effected to the point where you cannot notice it.

You would need to take concentrations of bleach using the same concentration of bat faeces to assess it.

What species of fruit bat is it?

Animal faeces can make good compost but I would be wary with bats because of possibility of diseases

https://www.crittercontrol.com/wildlife/bats/bat-guano

EDIT. Info on UK bats and disease but globally a different matter

https://www.bats.org.uk/about-bats/bats-and-disease
 
Hornbein said:
A tall tree looms over my property. Bats eat its fruit then dump their purple poop on my sidewalk.
Natural enemies/predators of fruit bats are owls, hawks, falcons, cats, etc. You might consider putting some decoy predators up in the tree to keep the bats away...

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/bat-predators-what-eats-bats/
 
There could be some pH effect happening.
Bleach has a pH dependancy, it more reactive below 6.8.
At alkaline pH values of about 8.5 or higher, more than 90 percent of the bleach is in the form of the chlorite ion (OCl-), which is relatively ineffective antimicrobially. At acidic pH values of about 6.8 or lower, more than 80 percent of the bleach is in the form of hypochlorite (HOCl).
Bleach is typically around pH 11.

The particular proportions of bat poop and bleach could result in different pH solutions that could affect its ability to clean (based on bleach's oxidizing ability).

On the other hand, some of bleach's cleaning ability is just due to its high pH.
 

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