Death of an Organism: Event or Series of Events?

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The discussion centers on whether death should be considered a singular event or a series of events, exploring various definitions and implications of death in biological and philosophical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the proximate cause of death influences whether it is seen as an event or a series of events, with examples ranging from instantaneous causes like accidents to prolonged processes like disease.
  • One participant defines death as the cessation of all biological processes, specifically referencing "brain death" or "biological death" as common medical definitions, while noting the complexities involved in determining permanence of consciousness.
  • Another participant emphasizes that cellular death contributes to the overall death of an organism, suggesting that the fate of the organism depends on which and how many cells die.
  • There is a philosophical angle introduced regarding grafting in trees, questioning the notion of death when parts of an organism can continue to live on in another form.
  • One participant highlights the legal and medical definitions of death, mentioning the challenges in determining irreversible cessation of vital functions and the implications for organ transplantation.

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Participants express differing views on whether death is an event or a series of events, with no consensus reached. The discussion includes multiple competing definitions and interpretations of death.

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Limitations include the complexity of defining irreversible death, the variability in legal definitions across regions, and the philosophical implications of cellular life versus organismal death.

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Is death an event or a series of events?
 
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Depends on the proximate cause of death.

Disease can linger in the body for years before causing death. An infection can cause death in a matter of days, or even hours. Running head-on into a cement mixer truck or a freight train is pretty much an instantaneous 'event'.
 
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Death is defined as cessation of all biological processes......
...Today, where a definition of the moment of death is required, doctors and coroners usually turn to "brain death" or "biological death" to define a person as being dead; people are considered dead when the electrical activity in their brain ceases. It is presumed that an end of electrical activity indicates the end of consciousness. However, suspension of consciousness must be permanent, and not transient, as occurs during certain sleep stages, and especially a coma. In the case of sleep, EEGs can easily tell the difference.
So it stands to reason that death is an event in which electrical activity of brain permanently ceases...but I am no expert so I may be wrong.
 
SteamKing said:
Depends on the proximate cause of death.

Disease can linger in the body for years before causing death. An infection can cause death in a matter of days, or even hours. Running head-on into a cement mixer truck or a freight train is pretty much an instantaneous 'event'.

That would be cause of death, what about death itself?
 
It is cells that die, which lead to the death of the organism. Obviously, in complex organisms, which cells die, and how many determine the fate of the organism.
The topic of death is also a philosophical one. Consider "grafting", where trees have their limbs removed and grafted onto other trees, commonly done with cultivated fruit trees. In a sense, the parent tree never dies.
 
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That would be cause of death, what about death itself?

The medical definition is the cessation of all vital functions. To that I might add the word "irreversible". This in fact is not easily determined so a common legal definition for human death is brain death as indicated on an electroencephalogram (EEG). However, the EEG is not a perfect instrument and in some countries patients or their families are allowed to choose from a set of legal criteria which includes a "do not resuscitate" instruction in the case of a cardiac arrest. So the technology may exist to restore vital functions, but may not be applied even in the absence of documented brain death.

In a complex organism, the organism itself may be irreversibly "dead" but some organs are still "alive" and can continue to be capable of functioning for a while. This is why we can transplant vital organs.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598255/

EDIT: Note even mitochondria can be transplanted.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23080556
 
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