Debunking Your Friend: Why Their Answer to Astronaut Pen Question is Wrong

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual question regarding the behavior of a pen released by an astronaut in the International Space Station. The subject area pertains to gravitational physics and orbital mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the nature of gravity in orbit, discussing the concept of free-fall and how it relates to the pen's motion. There is an examination of the misconception that gravity is absent in space, with attempts to clarify the role of gravitational forces in orbital mechanics.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the physics of free-fall and orbital motion. Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the gravitational forces acting on the pen and the astronaut, while others are questioning the initial assumptions about gravity in space.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the concepts of gravity and centrifugal force, with participants attempting to reconcile these ideas in the context of the scenario presented.

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i have a concept question that i can't seem to get anybody?? Know??

Lets say you and a friend are wacthing tv and see an astronaut on the space station let go of a pen while he turns to get some paper. What happens to the pen when the astronaugt let's go of it? Your friend says its because there is no gravity up there. Explain why your friend is wrong?
 
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It is because the space station is in orbit. It is still in the gravitational field, so it is in free-fall, not zero-gravity.
 
There is gravity everywhere, the pen "floats" because it is in free-fall, similar to a skydiver as he/she plummets towards the ground. The pen is constantly falling towards Earth however because the shuttle the pen is in is orbiting the Earth it's moving fast enough to not crash into the earth. But yes there is gravity on the pen.
 
thanxs guys

thnak you so its like the shuttle cause a centrifugal force which keeps the pen up
 
richman614 said:
thnak you so its like the shuttle cause a centrifugal force which keeps the pen up

No.

It's the same as if you were in a free falling elevator and dropped a pen. You and the elevator and the pen are falling toward the earth, but to you it seems as if the pen isn't falling becasue you are falling just as fast as it.

The space station in orbit is constantly falling towards the earth, but its perpendicular velocity is such that its motion is an orbit instead of a line direct to earth.
 

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