Decoherence in measurement apparatus

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The discussion focuses on the concept of decoherence in quantum measurement, specifically regarding how a measuring apparatus interacts with a quantum property like spin. It clarifies that decoherence occurs in two stages: first within the apparatus after measurement and then as the result propagates into the external environment. Participants emphasize the importance of entanglement between the electron and the measuring apparatus, which influences the decoherence process. The conversation also highlights the need for precise terminology when discussing these phenomena.

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I was wondering about decoherence:

Suppose a measuring apparatus measures a single quantum property (say, spin). After the actual measurement of the property has taken place, the result 'decoheres' into the apparatus until the apparatus shows the measurement result, after which it decoheres into the world. At least, I am told such.

I was wondering about the physical environment of the apparatus; the material the apparatus is made of is prone to numerous influences too. However, the measurement performed is kept separate from all these influences.

My question is what the difference is between these two types of decoherence is in this context, and how the measurement is kept isolated.

UPDATE: Considering this, it also occurred to me that after the measurement apparatus shows the measurement result, the result is propagating according to the 'environmental' decoherence again.
 
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entropy1 said:
I was wondering about decoherence:
Suppose a measuring apparatus measures a single quantum property (say, spin). After the actual measurement of the property has taken place, the result 'decoheres' into the apparatus until the apparatus reads the measurement result, after which it decoheres into the world. At least, I am told such.
I don't quite understand this part... are you saying the apparatus undergoes decoherence before it measures the spin? You say measurement (edited from the word 'that') has taken place but then say "until the apparatus reads the measurement result". Reading a measurement having taken place, and if so from what?

I think that when you speak of measuring the spin of an electron, it takes a very long time for the electron to be affected by decoherence. It is upon entanglement with the apparatus that both would undergo decoherence.

Note edits.
 
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StevieTNZ said:
I don't quite understand this part... are you saying the apparatus undergoes decoherence before it measures the spin? You say measurement (edited from the word 'that') has taken place but then say "until the apparatus reads the measurement result". Reading a measurement having taken place, and if so from what?

I think that when you speak of measuring the spin of an electron, it takes a very long time for the electron to be affected by decoherence. It is upon entanglement with the apparatus that both would undergo decoherence.

Note edits.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was wondering if I was using the correct terminology. I have rephrased it in 'shows' (in the readout of the apparatus). :wink:
 

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