Decoupling of angular momentum

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The discussion revolves around the concept of decoupling angular momentum in the presence of a strong magnetic field, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and Hamiltonian dynamics. Participants explore the implications of adding a magnetic field to the Hamiltonian and how it affects the coupling between different angular momentum terms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of decoupling angular momenta when a strong magnetic field is applied, suggesting that the magnetic field should simply add another term to the Hamiltonian without removing existing terms.
  • Another participant introduces the perspective of perturbation theory, indicating that while the magnetic field does not remove terms, it influences the hierarchy of terms, affecting which quantum numbers are relevant for studying energy levels.
  • A participant connects the discussion to the Paschen-Back effect as an example of how coupling and decoupling relate to dominant terms in the Hamiltonian.
  • Further clarification is provided that coupling and decoupling refer to the relative strength of interactions, using LS coupling and jj-coupling in atomic physics as an analogy.
  • One participant comments on the complexity of quantum theory terminology and the historical context of its development, suggesting that the language used can contribute to misunderstandings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of perturbation theory in understanding decoupling, but there are nuances in how they interpret the implications of adding a magnetic field to the Hamiltonian. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the precise nature of decoupling and its implications.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the dominance of certain terms in the Hamiltonian and how they relate to the behavior of quantum systems under strong magnetic fields. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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Hello! I am reading some papers and I often noticed that it is mentioned that a strong magnetic field is able to decouple certain angular momenta from each other. For example in this paper: https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.100.023003 they present a Hamiltonian (second column on the first page) that contains terms of the form ##\gamma N\cdot S + b I\cdot S##, where S is the spin of the electron, I is the nuclear spin and N is the rotational quantum number of the molecule rotation. Then, after a strong enough magnetic field is applied, B is able to decouple S from I and N. I am not sure I understand what does this mean. If we add a magnetic field, shouldn't we just add another term to the hamiltonian so the new hamiltonian would be (ignoring the terms I ignored in the first part, too), ##\gamma N\cdot S + b I\cdot S - g\mu_B S\cdot B## i.e. the spin, S, is obviously feeling the magnetic field, but it also feels the N and I. Why would a magnetic field make the 2 terms containing I and N disappear? Can someone explain to me what this decoupling means? Thank you!
 
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You have to look at it from the perspective of perturbation theory. Adding the magnetic field tot he Hamiltonian will of course not remove one of the terms already present, but the hierarchy of the terms will dictate how certain quantum numbers are or are not useful to study the energy levels.

A good example of this is the Paschen-Back effect:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/paschen.html
 
DrClaude said:
You have to look at it from the perspective of perturbation theory. Adding the magnetic field tot he Hamiltonian will of course not remove one of the terms already present, but the hierarchy of the terms will dictate how certain quantum numbers are or are not useful to study the energy levels.

A good example of this is the Paschen-Back effect:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/paschen.html
Thanks a lot for this! So by these "coupling" and "decoupling", they just mean what terms in the Hamiltoninan are dominant, and hence, which quantum numbers are (almost) good to be used in perturbation theory?
 
kelly0303 said:
Thanks a lot for this! So by these "coupling" and "decoupling", they just mean what terms in the Hamiltoninan are dominant, and hence, which quantum numbers are (almost) good to be used in perturbation theory?
Yes. Think back to LS coupling vs jj-coupling in atoms, where it is the relative strength of the spin-orbit interaction compared to the residual electrostatic interaction that decides whether it is useful to describe the states using term symbols, ##^{2S+1}L_J##, or whether ##L## and ##S## have no relevance due to ##l## and ##s## coupling into ##j## for each electron first.
 
This is another example of the fact that most of the weirdness of QT is related to the weird slang people developed talking about it (particularly Bohr and Heisenberg were the masters of destaster) :oldbiggrin:
 
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