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The discussion revolves around the definite integration of a concave upward function and the implications of its properties, particularly focusing on inequalities related to its second derivative. Participants explore various approaches to understanding the behavior of such functions through integration and the relationships between derivatives and function values.
Participants express differing views on the implications of integrating the second derivative and the relationships between the function and its secant line. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing approaches and interpretations presented.
There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the behavior of the function and its derivatives, as well as the conditions under which certain inequalities hold. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.
Yes.Rido12 said:On the last integral, is the upper bound "9"?
Thank you so much!MarkFL said:Hello and welcome to MHB! :D
Can you tell us what you've tried or what your thoughts are on how to begin, so our helpers have an idea where you are stuck and then can provide better help?
MarkFL said:I think I would begin with the minimal case:
$$0<f^{\prime\prime}(x)$$
So, integrating, what can you say about $f$?
mathisfun said:Wouldn't integrating this inequality conclude the same thing as what we are given, that f is a concave upward function?
MarkFL said:What did you get when integrating?
If f1(X)>f2(x)MarkFL said:Let's begin with:
$$0<f^{\prime\prime}(x)$$
And so, on $$[1,k]$$ where $$1<k\in\mathbb{R}$$ there must be some constant $C$ such that:
$$C<f^{\prime}(x)$$
What happens if you integrate again?