Definition of Limit Point: Is There a Point Not in E?

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A limit point p of a set E in a metric space is defined as a point where every neighborhood contains another point q in E, distinct from p. The discussion explores whether there can be limit points not included in E, specifically using the open interval E = (0,1) as an example. Points such as 0 and 1 are identified as limit points of (0,1) that are not part of the set. Additionally, the concept of a perfect set is introduced, defined as a closed set where every point is a limit point, with [0,1] provided as an example. The conversation concludes by discussing closed sets that are not perfect, highlighting examples like {2} and [0,1] ∪ {2}.
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the definition of limit point:
a point p is a limit point of E(subset of metric space X) if every neighborhood of p contains a point q≠p which is in E.

My question is that is there a limit point p which is not in E?
 
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jwqwerty said:
the definition of limit point:
a point p is a limit point of E(subset of metric space X) if every neighborhood of p contains a point q≠p which is in E.

My question is that is there a limit point p which is not in E?

Take the open unit interval E = (0,1) as a subset of the real numbers. Can you think of a real number that's not in (0,1) but that satisfies the definition of limit point of E? (Hint: Can you think of TWO such points?)
 
SteveL27 said:
Take the open unit interval E = (0,1) as a subset of the real numbers. Can you think of a real number that's not in (0,1) but that satisfies the definition of limit point of E? (Hint: Can you think of TWO such points?)

thanks but i have another question

can you give me an example of a set that is perfect?
def: E is perfect if E is closed and if every point of E is a limit point of E
 
So you refuse to answer SteveL27's question?

But I will answer your question: [0, 1].

It's actually harder to give an example of a closed set that is NOT perfect. Can you?
 
HallsofIvy said:
It's actually harder to give an example of a closed set that is NOT perfect. Can you?

What stops me from adding {0} to usual topology of real line, so that is´s open set? Then (0, 1] would be closed and not perfect. Certainly not easy, I can´t think of any more standard example.
 
(0, 1] is not closed; it's just also not open. A good example of a closed non-perfect set is one with an isolated point, like {2}, or [0,1]\cup{2}.
 

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